@hawkeye10,
Quote:There is a concept called personal responsibility, and there is a cost that tends to come to those who refuse to practice it,
Exactly--which is why rapists are responsible for the rapes they commit and the punishments they receive. Which is why prison time for rape is "a potential tool for teaching personal responsibility, and sometimes it is in the long term best interest of everyone that this leason be given a chance to do its work"--just as you've pointed out.
Because no matter how she dressed, or how much she drank, or how much she flirted, the responsibility for the rape is on the rapist. That is called personal responsibility for the act of rape. Responsibility for the act is on the one who commits the act.
If you were drunk and sleeping on your couch in your underwear, and a burglar broke a window and entered your home, and then left with your property, who would be held responsible for the crime of theft that was committed? Would the police doubt you were robbed because you had been drunk? Would they say you invited it because you were in your underwear? Would they say it was your fault for passing out and not guarding your home?
You must feel that most men are potential rapists, since you imply that the female's behavior or appearance somehow motivated the rape and that most men would similarly respond to such cues by also raping a vulnerable, defenseless, incapacitated female if the opportunity presented itself. Isn't that what men do? Isn't rape normal male behavior under such circumstances? You certainly seem to have a low opinion of most men. You must think they are all ethically challenged opportunists with little regard for the feelings and welfare of others if that gets in the way of gratifying their own needs--just the way you describe yourself as being. Perhaps thinking that way gives you the feeling of being "normal"--that most men, just like you, would commit rape if the opportunity presented itself. But, unlike you, most men have a conscience. Most men do not regard women as objects of prey. Most men do not have such low self esteem that they need to seek defenseless unwilling sex partners who are unable to reject them. Most men do not rape.
Your posts consistently provide excellent examples of rape denial and the types of myths and excuses that make apologies for the actions of rapists. You've made a major contribution to this thread by providing such examples. You've let everyone know the attitudes that motivate rapists. All they have to do is read your posts.