Mon 8 Dec, 2014 01:43 am
I would like to try a thought experiment.

This is a thought experiment. This does not mean that I either agree or disagree with any of this. "A thought experiment is a device with which one performs an intentional, structured process of intellectual deliberation in order to speculate, within a specifiable problem domain, about potential consequents (or antecedents) for a designated antecedent (or consequent)".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_experiment

Being that society (specifically feminists, and even more specifically gynocentrists) continually change the definition of rape to whatever suits their ideological ends, including things like defining a woman who gets drunk and has sex with a man and then regrets it after the fact as having been "raped"; I think it's time that men were allowed to define "rape" as they see fit also. At least in the confines of this thought experiment.

A man's sexual needs are his biggest weakness. Any woman who benefits from providing sex to a man is exploiting him. Whether it's a hooker or a housewife. Both hookers and housewives are sex workers, because both are using men's chronic addiction to vagina as a bartering tool. Having a vagina gives a person an unfair advantage in the realm of sexual dynamics. When a man is horny, he is as in control of himself as a woman that's too drunk to stand on her own two feet.

If a woman gives a horny man sex, but she did it to take something from him such a money, or resources, or a promotion, or whatever it might be, then that man has been raped. A horny man is not in his right state of mind, not enough to handle things like money. When women take advantage of this, that is rape. Just like how when a woman has too much to drink and regrets the sex she had the next day that is rape. These things are both rape because the people involved were not in their right minds when the sex took place.

Men are slaves to their dicks. Women know this and use it to their advantage. How many men out their have done something because they were horny, and
immediately after orgasming then thought to themselves "Oh god, this was such a bad idea", and wished they hadn't done it. Because you see, sex is like a drug to men. Men are chronic vagitarians. And because sex is like a drug, men are not in their right mind when they are horny because of the hormonal intoxication of sexual arousal. Women who take advantage of horny men are rapists, just like how women who regret having sex when they were drunk are rape victims.

These people can't be expected to be accountable for their own actions while they are in these states being.

To any men who have ever spent a lot of money on a woman, or on yourself in order to impress a woman; or even to any men who have ever hired a hooker, or spent money on a live cam girl; would you have done this kind of thing if you weren't horny???

That's the same kind of question as when someone asks a woman "That sex you gave that guy last night, would you have done that had you been sober?"
And she answers "No!" and then society says "Then you were raped!"

Women who use their sexuality to obtain something, anything from a man are sexual predators. They prey on men's libidos and coerce money out of men, exploiting their power dynamic just like a pedophile coercing a child with gifts and candy.

A sober man and a drunk woman are on equal social levels. A sober man is so under women's sexual power that women have conscious cognitive control over him. Any taking of this man's money or using him in any way is rape and exploitation.

In reference to "rape culture", we live in a culture that normalizes men buying things for women and supporting them for life (via marriage). We normalize, glorify, and glamorize this exploitive rape dynamic.

Hookers, sex workers, porn stars, etc. are all horrible exploiters of male weakness. A house wife is a long term hooker, and a hooker is a short term rent-a-wife.

What Tiger Wood's ex-wife did to him was rape.

Now, as I stated this is merely a thought experiment.
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Lordyaswas
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 07:34 am
@nononono,
Tell me, nono, just what was the terrible thing that happened between you and a past female, to make your brain think like this?
nononono
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 07:54 am
@Lordyaswas,
Quote:
Tell me, nono, just what was the terrible thing that happened between you and a past female, to make your brain think like this?


Well, I have a tiny penis of course. I can't get laid. I live in my parents basement. I have a neckbeard. I wear a fedora. My mother raped me annually with a wooden spoon. And of course I'm also angry because I want women to get back in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant. The way it should be.

Does that work for you?
Lordyaswas
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 09:33 am
@nononono,
Well, not for me, but it certainly seems to motivate you.

Have you had counselling for all of that?
nononono
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 04:40 pm
@Lordyaswas,
Let me ask you something Lordyaswas, would you under any circumstance ever ask a feminist woman "Just what was the terrible thing that happened between you and a past male, to make your brain think like this?"

Do you understand what hypocrisy is?
contrex
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 04:49 pm
@nononono,
nononono wrote:
My mother raped me annually with a wooden spoon.
Well, she only did it once a year. Think yourself lucky it wasn't up your ass.
contrex
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 04:50 pm
@nononono,
nononono wrote:
Do you understand what hypocrisy is?
You evidently don't.
nononono
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 04:52 pm
@contrex,
Quote:
Well, she only did it once a year. Think yourself lucky it wasn't up your ass.


Once a year? Where did you get that? I never said that. See, you people need to read things carefully. the truth is she actually raped me with a wooden spoon every night; and if I was a good boy she'd let me lick the spoon afterwards....
nononono
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 04:53 pm
@contrex,
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You evidently don't.


Retarded are you sir? I'm sorry.
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nononono
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 04:59 pm
@nononono,
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Once a year? Where did you get that? I never said that. See, you people need to read things carefully. the truth is she actually raped me with a wooden spoon every night; and if I was a good boy she'd let me lick the spoon afterwards....


By the way, that was sarcasm. I know it's hard for some to detect that on a2k. I don't give a toot if or when I make spelling errors.
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oralloy
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 06:28 pm
@Lordyaswas,
Lordyaswas wrote:
Tell me, nono, just what was the terrible thing that happened between you and a past female, to make your brain think like this?

As if someone can only support gender equality if they've suffered a bad experience?
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MoralityAboveAll
 
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Sun 15 Mar, 2015 07:55 pm
You raise a good point nononono. Having sex with a woman while she is drunk being automatically considered rape is unfair.

I understand there are a lot of implications and many guys would deliberately take advantage of these women. However, what if the guy is not intentionally taking advantage but is also drunk? In that case it clearly is not right for the woman to scream rape.

But as regards men not being in their right mind when women sleep with them; I think you'll find a very strong argument that the ladies are not their right mind either.

A while back I read that an American judge once ruled that once women begin an act of sexual intercourse they do not have the psychological ability to stop — while not entirely relevant, if it's true, it does give us pause for thought — after all women have hormones to.
DaVoice
 
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Sat 18 Apr, 2015 10:14 pm
@MoralityAboveAll,
I think it is rape if a man is drunk and a women is not. The women has taken advantage and should be held accountable.
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HesDeltanCaptain
 
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Thu 6 Aug, 2015 08:30 am
@nononono,
Legally, there are differening levels of "rape." Think that's wrong myself and there shouldn't be a gradation, or varying level of severity and all rapists should be executed, but few ask my opinion on these things (most knowing what my answer will be - "off with his head!") Smile

Legally then, rape is generally defined as 'any unwanted contact with the typically-sexual parts of another person's body (breasts, genitals, buttocks.)' Penetration isn't usually required to become rape. And it certainly isn't pscyhologically as to the trauma the victim experiences.

Why so harsh my view? Because a rape victim is a victim the rest of their life. It isn't something you're going to froget, so why should a rapist be allowed to serve just a few years in prison then move on with life when their victim cannot?

Rape is now a pandemic worldwide. To send a clear and unified voice to would-be rapists a zero tolerance policy should be implemented with death the punishment. Can't imagine why anyone'd want a rapist to ever walk their streets again, or have to pay to house and feed them for the next 50 or so years. Bullet's just a buck or so.

momoends
 
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Sat 25 Jun, 2016 10:10 pm
@nononono,
Suitable for electroshock therapy
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Digger2
 
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Fri 26 Aug, 2016 08:34 pm
@HesDeltanCaptain,
Some of the "gradations of rape" you listed are sexual assault (non-consensual sexual touching), not rape (a type of sexual assault, involving non-consensual sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration). The trauma of actual penetration is a lot worse than trauma from only touching. By making equal all sexual assault and gradations of rape equal to violent rape, you really just trivialize the severity of violent rape and trivialize the suffering of the victims of violent rape. That's not sending men a clear message, it's the opposite: It increases confusion.
momoends
 
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Sat 27 Aug, 2016 04:58 pm
@Digger2,
i don´t agree with you about your cathegorization of "trauma" but, of course, penetration seems to be the worst act of physical sexual abuse and we should send a clear message of repulse to the world.... Any kind of sexual abuse is a crime and any kind of sexual abuse is violent and traumatic
Digger2
 
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Sun 28 Aug, 2016 03:45 am
@momoends,
I didn't categorize trauma, I said the trauma of penetration is worse than the trauma of touching. My point is, touching is not rape - rape is non-consensual penetration.
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kamar-zuina
 
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Sat 1 Apr, 2017 06:02 am
I think there are several logical mistakes in your thought experiment.

1. Why do you link rape to exploitation? As far as I know rape is classified as such if someone penetrates somebody without the person's consent. The definition does not say anything about the motivation behind the penetration (e.g. money). So, why do you think sex is rape if somebody sleeps with another person to obtain money or other things you can buy with money? It is certainly not an honorable motivation to sleep with somebody for money, but I do not see the 'rape'-part in it, because a woman sleeping with a man to get money does not imply that the man does not consent to the sex.

2. Where do you have the information from that a horny man is on the same mental level as a drunk person? Is there any scientific research about it?

3. You said: "A wife is a long-term hooker". Why do you think a woman marries a man only to exploit him financially? Have you ever heard of the idea of love-match? Or the idea that a woman is working and a man stays at home? I don't know in which culture you grew up, but in my culture this idea is increasingly popular.

4. How do you know a horny woman isn't equally weak as a horny man? You are only talking about how men fall victims to their libido and how women consciously exploit men for that weakness. I think this idea is quite one-sided because women are different when they're horny, just as men are.

5. Why do you think women EXCLUSIVELY sleep with men to exploit them for money? Maybe women just enjoy sex for the sake of sex, like men enjoy sex for the sake of sex (!!).
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Krumple
 
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Sun 2 Apr, 2017 04:36 pm
@nononono,
"Defining rape..."

Working a minimum wage job.
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