Iran Isreal and US

Israel has its own independence :lightbulb: scotland is part of the UK,and to become independent,the majority of the people concerned have to vote for it.
Also Israel was created against the wishes of the majority of the population of the people who actually lived there,not very democratic.

The sad thing about that,is you really believe that crap.

As previously stated, there was a large Jewish population in Israel at the time of its creation. And their ancestors inhabited the land, so why don't they have a right to it?

What's sad about it? You think it would be better if they had more time on their hands so they could target innocent civilians?

Because they were the minority :lightbulb: Israel was created against the wishes of the majority of the poulation,is that to hard to understand.

Could not find pre-Israel demographics from shortly before the creation of Israel, but:

Ethnic Makeup of Israel
Jewish....................5,394,400 75.79%
Israeli Arab..............1,413,300 19.86%
Unaffiliated..............309,900 4.35%

According to wiki, Jews are in the majority, so the state of Israel has a right to exist now, I assume?

"Jews sre in the majority" no chit sherlock,after all Israel is a Jewish state,but i can assure you before its creation,the jews were in the minority.

Because they were the minority :lightbulb: Israel was created against the wishes of the majority of the poulation,is that to hard to understand.

Okay, they were at least a third of the population at the time they declared the state of Israel, then millions immigrated and Arabs fled and they were certainly a majority in the very early years. So the Israeli population was majority Jewish not long after the initial Israeli-Arab conflicts. So matter settled right? Can't get rid of Israel now, right?

They wooped the Brits asses, too, at that exact time. Why didn't the Brits protect the majority, against those evil Israelis? Again, it's convenient to be Scottish, isn't it?:no:

That makes it ok then :beat:

I'd like to see a counterargument from your position as to why it doesn't instead of dodging it.

How im i dodging it ? i have given my reasons above,which you seem to have dismissed,the fact is Israel WAS created against the wishes of the majority on the population who actually lived there.

Fine, but that's irrelevant since the majority of Israelis are Jews today.

But it wasn't at the time of its creation,cant you get that into your skull,ofcourse the majortity of Israelis are jews,its a jewish state.

Fine, but that's irrelevant.

I could keep posting that until you look up the meaning of irrelevant or explain why it matters.

Its irrelavant ! you have to be joking (then again probably not)

Yes, what does this have to do with current affairs? You can complain about it all you want, but it still doesn't matter any more.

"It dosen't matter anymore" to whom are you talking about,i can assure you it does matter,to the people who were displaced from their homes and the arab world as a whole,so it clearly does matter,and has been one of the main reasons of conflict in the middle-east for decades to the present day.

So the majority mattered then but not now. If this is what you think, let's go back even further. Are the Arabs the only surviving group who lived in Israel? If no, who were the previous inhabitants? Why were they displaced? Did the majority of them want to be kicked out of their homeland or persecuted for centuries?

It's odd how the Muslims are always the good guys.