Iran Isreal and US

Talking to yourself, scooby? And I see you're making sense now. Oh wait, you're just quoting me without making it apparent. Even if communism starts out as democratically elected, it doesn't last. Who knows where Chile would be now if we let Allende slide? Who knows where we would be now. Liberals will never understand. You cannot expect to support something that leads you on the path to destruction because it was caused by democracy if you are in a time where your civilization is in danger. Chile was a necessary evil, as I've said, to ensure the welfare of democracy as a whole and to ensure that one day Chile and other countries similar to it could one day be democracies securely. And they are, and some have chosen socialism.

As I think, Reagaknight pointed out. We were wiser to support the west friendly capitalist Pinochet' rather than a communist regime as was the only other option. America, has meddled, supporting despots in hopes of friendly ties likely for economic reasons. But as I have previously pointed out, without a movement within a nation, there is no hope of change for democracy.
Whoever is judging the U.S. as an evil empire, need only expose their own efforts of "aid" to the downtrodden of the world to prove their point.
Out of curiosity, in your opinion, which nations view America as an evil empire?

So what you more or less saying,its the US that makes the rules,they decide who THEY want in power,whether he is a dictator or democratically elected,as long as its suits their agenda.
The US the biggest sponsor of stater terrorism in the world.

You should probably be thankful that the US has protected civilization. But, you know, just my opinion.


Still don't see a large list of US conspiracies to put people in power.

I don't like wasting my time, that's why I asked you.

Unfortunately g-man & reagaknight take the same view as their government that backing despots, scoundrels & murderers against the people is somehow for the greater good & to protect democracy.

The poor people of the world don't give a **** who provides food & decent housing for them - whether it's a socialist, communist or ardent capitalists like yourselves. If Americas politicians had the foresight to recognise this then there wouldn't be a 'threat' from socialism.

Also how can you protect democracy by removing or destabilising a democratically elected government??????????????????

You really dont know how unpopular Bush and his neo-con friends are,do you !

It dosent really matter then does it,it makes me laugh when the US claims to be this great democracy.

Whatever, not expounding upon your point doesn't make you look good though.

Bush, by going to war in Iraq has likely save more western lives simply by giving AQ a play ground. A play ground where they can fight Americans. To their chagrin, the Americans they are taking on are trained, prepared armed and in a nasty mood. Unpopular with whom? Anybody that matters?

Democracy is a tool, not an ideology.

And Scoob, you should laugh at something, considering your lackey-status under the English. Ha. At least we're independent of them.
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It dont make me look good lol as i sais in a post above ,the US picks and chooses when it comes to democracy,if they dont like who the people of that country elected,they will try directly or indirectly to remove them,it also has a history of backing dictators,which you pino and g-man seem quite happy with,to me it stinks.

Says pino the fascist dictator :thumbdown:

I voted SNP at the last election pino,i believe in true democracy,not your kind of democracy,if you dont like the result,get rid ot them.

Which is exactly why Hugo Chavez (president of the USA fan club, of course) and people like him are in power. It doesn't make you look good at all to provide a couple of examples and make a generalization based on them.

So you're a hypocrite? Give the Scots Scotland, but Israel, why should the Jews have that?

IM a hypocrite LOL what the hell are you talking about,what a stupid comparison to make :headbang:

Actually, it's quite valid. The SNP wants Scottish independence and you agree with them, same with Israel but you disagree.