Congress should pass a resolution condemning Rush Limbaugh

Well history teaches us, that the Republican party was started by those who were opposed to slavery. The Republican party was not started by those who
were worried about states rights. And Lincoln from the beginning was against slavery himself. (This is historical fact)

States Rights to Lincoln, may of been like Weapons of Mass destruction was to Bush.
(That was my opinion)

And the prior comment I stated was taken from, The American Civil War: Reaction to President Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation
The American Civil War:* Reaction to President Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation

And today, Lincoln would be seen as more closely aligned with the Democratic Party...so I'm not sure at all about the references to Republicans and a liberal stance on slavery.

Strange isn't it campbell that modern Republicans remind us of the Publicans jesus spoke of in the bible?

I don't see how you could believe that, I'm sure the Democrats would be calling him a warmonger and telling him to bring the troops home. Lincoln would have a strong stand against abortion, so they would be hitting him on that. And Lincoln always stated you don't raise the level of the poor by taxing the rich, so they would be hitting him on that as well. Lincoln would agree on very little of what Democrats push today. And the reason for that is because Lincolns belief system was founded on the Bible.

Bull CaCa.....you are not in Lincoln's head any more than you are in Hillary's head...stop projecting. There is no documentation to support your claims.

I all ready gave you documentation on Hillary, what documentation are you talking about?

Q: Are there circumstances when the government should limit choice?

LAZIO: I had a pro-choice record in the House, and I believe in a woman’s right to choose. I support a ban on partial-birth abortions. Senator Moynihan called it “infanticide.” Even former mayor Ed Koch agreed that this was too extreme a procedure. This is an area where I disagree with my opponent. My opponent opposes a ban on partial-birth abortions.

CLINTON: My opponent is wrong. I have said many times that I can support a ban on late-term abortions, including partial-birth abortions, so long as the health and life of the mother is protected. I’ve met women who faced this heart-wrenching decision toward the end of a pregnancy. Of course it’s a horrible procedure. No one would argue with that. But if your life is at stake, if your health is at stake, if the potential for having any more children is at stake, this must be a woman’s choice.

She only supports it when the health risks are great. Campbell, you are wrong.


Source: Senate debate in Manhattan Oct 8, 2000 On The Issues

The documentation that Hillary supports late term abortion

It just grates my nerves, to be painted by conservatives as the devil's scions. Like liberals are for any and all abortion...and like we don't advocate preventative measures..and see abortion as the course of last resort.
At least libs and Democrats, don't abandon the infants after they are born...Repubs are content that mothers fend for themselves, or if said children become wards of the state...to let their lives play out in typical fashion...headed for foster care, and/or the criminal justice system, perpetuating the status quo.

This is Hillary's response to the Supreme Court ruling banning late term abortions.
"It is precisely this erosion of our constitutional rights that I warned against when I opposed the nominations of Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito," said Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y.
I have the link below, and don't tell me she doesent support late term abortions. And until the Supreme Court acted, a woman could get one for any reason they wanted. The procedure was barbaric, and supported by most in the Democratic party. Hillary is more worried and upset about a womans right to have her child ripped apart, than the lives of these children.

Supreme Court ruling raises ‘08 stakes - Tom Curry - MSNBC.com

She only supports it when the health risks are great. Campbell, you are wrong.


Source: Senate debate in Manhattan Oct 8, 2000 On The Issues

You know, what I abhor most is the Republican dirty trick of taking folks (Democrats) out of context, and spinning it to their own ends.

Campbell, it's precisely what you did. May I refer you to :


Hillary Clinton on Abortion

Late term abortion only if life or health are at risk
Q: Are there circumstances when the government should limit choice?

LAZIO: I had a pro-choice record in the House, and I believe in a woman?s right to choose. I support a ban on partial-birth abortions. Senator Moynihan called it ?infanticide.? Even former mayor Ed Koch agreed that this was too extreme a procedure. This is an area where I disagree with my opponent. My opponent opposes a ban on partial-birth abortions.

CLINTON: My opponent is wrong. I have said many times that I can support a ban on late-term abortions, including partial-birth abortions, so long as the health and life of the mother is protected. I?ve met women who faced this heart-wrenching decision toward the end of a pregnancy. Of course it?s a horrible procedure. No one would argue with that. But if your life is at stake, if your health is at stake, if the potential for having any more children is at stake, this must be a woman?s choice.
Source: Senate debate in Manhattan Oct 8, 2000

Remain vigilant on a woman?s right to chose
I am and always have been pro-choice, and that is not a right any of should take for granted. There are a number of forces at work in our society that would try to turn back the clock and undermine a woman?s right to chose, and [we] must remain vigilant.
Source: New York Times, pg.A11 Jan 22, 2000

Can you please get it straight and not "twisted"?

She may only support it when the health risks are great, but as the law is written, a woman can get a late term abortion for any reason they want, so what Hillary supports, has little to do with the reality of what is happening. Today, late term abortion is commonly used for birth control.

You know, what I abhor most is the Republican dirty trick of taking folks (Democrats) out of context, and spinning it to their own ends.

Right...just like the American people being overwhelmingly against the Iraq War, but the reality of the situation meant that George Bush could execute it anyway, and damn what people thought.
Your premise was that Hillary was short of the Devil, himself, and now, after being supplied with documentation which clearly spells out her take on the matter , you twist and turn and spin your rhetoric to what women can do , under the law, is "criminal".
I don't give a rat's booty about what you happen to think is criminal...a woman's right to choose is paramount to any entity having jurisdiction over what she can and cannot do with her own body. It is a decision between her and her conscience (some would say, God)...but it's her's.
And many believe that fetuses and embryos are not bona fide human beings with feelings or rights, until they are viable, meaning that they can exist outside of the womb, independently.
end of story. I am pro-choice...it is not baby killing as you describe...there are two schools of thought, obviously...give it a rest.

She may only support it when the health risks are great, but as the law is written, a woman can get a late term abortion for any reason they want, so what Hillary supports, has little to do with the reality of what is happening. Today, late term abortion is commonly used for birth control.