Abortion

yeah, you let me know when when you get raped and impregnated how you feel about baring a child with the face of the man that raped you....but either way it doesn't really matter what we think because it's up to sudan whether they want to outlaw abortion or not.

The whole point i'm trying to make here is you can't make a good absolute decision like that, If you make up your mind before hearing the issue you are A FOOL! Life isn't always black and white, there is gray area. You make you decision base upon the circumstances, like lying most of us would agree that lying is bad but there are cases where lying can be good, this goes for just about everything. Some people may call it being inconsistant but I call it being realalistic!

Alternately, there are some issues where your basic principles should never change.

Abortion isn't one of them

but i'm interesed in hearing what these "basic unchanging principals" are....

How about that there is no justification for the destruction of innocent human life. Does that come under moral relativity?

....even if it saves a million times more innocent human lives?

like i said, you can't make a good absolute decision without knowing the circumstances!

If you subscribe to the belief that a life is a life no matter what and also believe in inherent equality of all humans, than what is being said here prejudiced against some unborn children because of the sins of the fathers. The fathers are extremist Muslims, so kill the children because they might grow up to be the same? They're 'vermin' simply because of their fathers? The problem is not with the unborn children, it is with the fathers, so why not go the extra mile and deal with them instead of killing innocent children?

So what's this "extra mile" we (America) go to deal with them?

Stopping the extremists.

Not their innocent children.

How could you possibly even entertain the thought that an unborn child will definitely grow up to a killer?

You can't. Because you have no idea.

Stopping the extremists.

Not their innocent children.

Did i say that?

I was talking about your so-called "absolute prinicipal" which turns out not to be so absolute after all....

face the facts, you CANNOT make a moral informed decision without knowing the circumstances, you simply cannot!

Kill the guilty ones, however.

In America? What's OUR extra mile that we do to protect OUR women?

You want an "extra mile"? Tack the word "Death" to a rape sentence. I guarantee that will drop it by a significant percentage.

IMHO, rapists, pedophiles, molesters, and other sexual criminals need an express lane to the electric chair. They are counterproductive to the systems of our societies.

I have yet to see the definitive, realistic situation where this applies to the aforementioned statement about human life. Your example was simply unrealistic.

Truman orders the nuclear bomb to be droped on Japan....

oh yeah there is no realistic situation {sarcasm}

Fair enough. Now how about abortion related situations.

I was just letting you know that you can't make a good decision without knowing the circumstances. Like I said before i'm pro-life.