Iran could strike the US by 2015

I love how you word that. So... neocon-ish.

Abandon the jews? Naah. Stop support for Israel? I think we need to consider it. Not to "appease the terrorists", as you put it, but to let them fight their own fight. Israel hasn't exactly been the follower of non-violence. They *were* the first to break the non-aggression pact with Hamas.

If they want the Temple Mount so badly, let them get it themselves.

well this is great news lol

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No matter how you play with the words, it means the same thing, abandon the Jews. Israel was the first to break the non-aggression pact with Hamas?
Hamas has NEVER recognized Israels right to exist, Hamas continues to broadcast from their radio and T.V. stations the need for the Jews to leave. And calling for the destruction of Israel. Hamas is not intrested in any peace as long as the Jews remain in the land of Israel. Hamas continues to talk out of both sides of their mouth, words of peace for us here in the West, and words of war when speaking with their own people.

No they are the only country of the western influence to know to win one has to be as violent as the enemy. And they hold their own I would say greatly.

Here's a fun thought. If God intended the Jews to inherit the land that is Israel, why not let the Arabs and Jews fight it out and see who wins? If the Israelis are truly granted the land by spiritual decree, surely God will intervene on their behalf if they begin to lose.

Israel produces nothing of value for the US and are a strategic liability to us. They have a technologically advanced army, nuclear weapons, and money. They can defend themselves.

Here's a fun thought. If God intended the Jews to inherit the land that is Israel, why not let the Arabs and Jews fight it out and see who wins? If the Israelis are truly granted the land by spiritual decree, surely God will intervene on their behalf if they begin to lose.

Now I'm going to tell you what is going to happen. The Islamic nations will align themselves with Russia. Down the road Russia is going to start putting pressure on the U.S. to drop support for Israel. For a period of two years Islamic nations with Russia will be talking about war with the U.S. America will finally back away from Israel, and leave the way clear for the Islamic nations to march on her. I don't see this happening for another 20 years or so, but it will happen.
According the the Scriptures, when Russia and all of the Islamic nations move on Israel God steps in and destroys five sixths of their army. At first Russia does not see this as Gods intervention and believes it is an American trick. Without warning Russia then launches a full nuclear strike at America. According to the Bible, American cities will burn and our nation comes to her end in one hours time. Also the Bible tells us America will refuse to fight and surrenders. Then Europe suddenly becomes the leader of the western world because America no longer exist as a nation. The leader of Europe at first really brings the world together, and for a short time things look like there going to be ok. But the worst is yet to come.

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Please, show us the words America, Russia, nuclear, or Europe in the bible. Take you time.

Israel was the first to break the non-aggression pact with Hamas?

No matter how you play with the words, it means the same thing, abandon the Jews.

Hamas has NEVER recognized Israels right to exist, Hamas continues to broadcast from their radio and T.V. stations the need for the Jews to leave. And calling for the destruction of Israel. Hamas is not intrested in any peace as long as the Jews remain in the land of Israel. Hamas continues to talk out of both sides of their mouth, words of peace for us here in the West, and words of war when speaking with their own people.

The Bible does not often give names. Jesus Christ fulfilled three hundred prophecies of the Old Testament, yet no where will you find the name Jesus Christ in the Old Testament. The Bible describes America, and the result of a nuclear attack on it. There is no less than 14 descriptions to isolate America and there really are more than 14. Yet there is only one nation on earth that fits all 14. Russia is pointed out by ancient tribal names, and also God states that Israel enemy would come from her uttermost north.

The Bible does not often give names. Jesus Christ fulfilled three hundred prophecies of the Old Testament, yet no where will you find the name Jesus Christ in the Old Testament. The Bible describes America, and the result of a nuclear attack on it. There is no less than 14 descriptions to isolate America and there really are more than 14. Yet there is only one nation on earth that fits all 14. Russia is pointed out by ancient tribal names, and also God states that Israel enemy would come from her uttermost north.

So, aside from someones interpretation there is no mention of the United States, Europe, Russia, or nuclear? Didn't tihnk so. Sorry, not falling for the fearmongering.

So you want to base foreign policy on a storybook? They already tried that, they called it a "crusade", in fact they tried it three times before figuring out it wouldn't work.

If the crusaders had actually read their bible, they would of understood it was Jews who would control Jerusalem not crusaders. Also, the crusades was a responce to the Moslems putting Christians to death because they would not convert to Islam. According to the Bible the Jews in the latter days would first take South Israel first, then they would take Jerusalem second. Also at the time of this even the nations of the east would would be able to field an army of 200 million men. I'm not even sure during the crusades if that part of the world even had 200 million men, let alone an army that size. It was not until 1960 when China first announced, and useing that very same number, stated that they now could field an army of 200 million men.

Israel produces nothing of value for the US and are a strategic liability to us. They have a technologically advanced army, nuclear weapons, and money. They can defend themselves.

Here's a fun thought. If God intended the Jews to inherit the land that is Israel, why not let the Arabs and Jews fight it out and see who wins? If the Israelis are truly granted the land by spiritual decree, surely God will intervene on their behalf if they begin to lose.

Actually, the second and third crusades were both launched against the Muslims during a time in which Islam and Christianity shared Jersusalem and other holy sites.
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This is a bit off the topic but I thought I would interject here, so forgive me.

Those who use violence to achieve there goal under the banner of Christianity, are not Christians. True Christians, abhor violence; they live by Jesus' words, who said that those who live by the sword will die by the sword. True Christians do not seek to impose what they believe on others, but they preach the gospel/good news of the kingdom of God, and baptize those who believe.

It is hard for non believers to know who true Christians are, but here is one way. The Bible says, "by there fruit you will know them." In other words, if they are involved in or support violence in any form, or support those who do, then they are not true Christian. But if they love and do good to those who hate them, and those who hurt, and kill them, then they are the ones who are truly Christians.

Russia left Afghanistan, and they don't suffer from Afghani terrorism. The Chechens are the only real terrorist group in Russia, and they want independence, can't really negotiate with them. The wars in Afghanistan and Vietnam PROVE my point that enemies don't "follow you home" when you stop occupying their land, they go about their business. In fact, I cannot think of a single historical reference where an occupying army left a region, only to suffer serious violent blowback.