@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;40417 wrote:You act like that was a choice, Saddam killed over a quarter million people while in power, none of them were on accident. The fact is colateral damage is far lower now then in years past. In WWII the civilan death toll was higher then the military death toll altogether, our attack on Germany was also preemptive in that they had yet to attack us. Was WWII illegal? Should we have left the Jews to their fate because "it wasn't out buisness", innocent people always die in war, it's fact. But in Iraq innocent people died in peace as well and with no end in sight. Your stance compelety ignores the injustices that were occuring beofre we got there yet critically holds the US accountable for trying to put an end in sight and then when Al Qeada blows up a hosptial you point the finger at Bush
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.
Germany declared war on the United States, ergo, they were first to act aggressively, we attacked first by deploying troops to Africa. You cherry-pick facts at a sickeningly hight rate.
Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq before the US invasion, they had running water, and peace. Did dissidents get killed and tortured? Yep, that's how it works in autocracies. You speak of innocent people dying as if there are no consequences for that.
Imagine for a moment that a foreign army "frees" you and topples the government you hate, but which left you alone because you just did your thing. Awesome, freedom is always good. Then, half of your friends and your little sister are killed or maimed in the ensuing fighting. Do you still like the invaders? Nope. It doesn't matter to you HOW it happened, all you know is your family members and friends are dead and it's THEIR FAULT. Do you give a **** about them freeing you at this point? Nope, but I'll bet you're mad enough to kill a few of them, or at the very least help their enemies.
Yugoslavia's rapid fall into ethnic cleansing is a perfect example of this. Average people joined the factions to fight based on hatred for those who hurt their family, not because of any political affiliation. That is what is happening in Iraq, and that is what WILL happen in Iran.
On a deeper psychological level, does human life mean nothing to you? Are the lives of Iranian and Iraqi civilians an "ok" price to pay to make sure their governments do what we want? I imagine if somebody told you that your life was an acceptable price to pay for their goals, you'd object pretty violently. These aren't just numbers, these are PEOPLE. You're either ignorant and have no concept of what war actually is, or you are borderline sociopathic.
[SIZE="5"] yep silverchild I suppose your going to tell me these women and children are insurgents? [/SIZE]
