Victory in Iraq, the Iran connection, and only the facts

i like your over the top manner,it brings a smile to my face,and tears....... of laughter to my eyes :thumbup:

You must live a boring life. Too much rain to go outside?:cig: :cig: :cig: :cig:

yeh i dont have a gun to play with ! as for the rain,you get used to it :thumbup:

Well, the former problem is your fault for over-empowering your government (who knows what it will take from you next, eh?), and the second requires an annual vacation to the tropics. You might become totally different person with enough sustained sunlight beating on you.:drive: :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :drive:

it's the double standard of entitlement

1. I want the government to do everything for me (retirment, healthcare, etc)

and

2. I want the government to leave me alone (taxes, big brother, etc)

it has never worked that way, it will never work that way. Government works when it's small and off in the distance

Oh, you mean when there is no oversight...and Congress really does live up to its' name of "Parliament of whores"...
Big Government is a right wing catch phrase...used against those in society who are disenfranchised, poor, uneducated, and left to fend for themselves..the recipients of "trickle down economics" of the Reagan era...except everybody knows that "trickle down economics" didn't work, either. So, just ship off the people under middle class, all the minorities, all the old folks, the ill folks, all the foreigners, and the criminals and the mentally impaired, and see how well your America works...they tried that before...under the Third Reich. It didn't work either.

It didn't work because we stepped in.

More good chit from our man in Oregon. I think, in the case of the weak, Socialism totally takes over and creates a state of 'ultra-dependency'. The weak come to chronically and shamelessly need and want government control. They want to be spoon-fed, in every regard. It's pathetic. It marks another victory for dehumanizing institutionalism. I had probationers on my caseload who freely admitted they could only live productive lives in prison. They couldn't handle freedom and the personal responsibility it requires. They were sad cases.:no:

Let's explore your premise further....
1. Tell number one to all of the employees of Enron, who lost pensions, retirement, healthcare, and their livelihoods, in one fell swoop...and reduced some to welfare recipients. Tell number one to a healthcare worker, who didn't quite fit into the corporation's plan, and whose job was "down-sized" and outsourced, all for the company dollar and profits (although the hospital was non-profit, and in the end, the CEO, who had promised that in the economic downturn, no one would lose their job, although building was "on-going", and he resigned with a 2 Million Dollar "golden parachute"
Tell number one to all of the Detroit auto workers, whose lost jobs, because American auto makers can't compete with the efficient, affordable Asian and German autos, and are "johnny-come-latelys" as far as the enviro conscious and gas saving hybrids.
Tell number one, to an inner city school teacher, who is underpaid, and has a classroom that is overcrowded, in a school lacking in infrastructure, resources, security, and parent-teacher involvement, due to poverty, abuse, malnutrition, viable jobs, and a myriad of personal reasons ( I'm sure you can imagine)...not your fault, not your responsibility, you say...well, if we can care about hunger in the rest of the world, why can't we address our own's hunger.
If we can repair the infrastructure in Iraq, why can't we do it here. (The bridge in Minnesota, that just collapsed, comes to mind.) Number one is only viable, if you don't care...about your fellow Americans...oh, you can preach all day about how you support the troops...but when the troops come back home, what do they get: Walter Reed....no jobs....no quality healthcare...they're forgotten, just like the Vietnam vets...because this country and its' commitment to its soldiers that fight its' wars is a sick joke.

2. Government should leave its' people alone, and allow them to free...it's written in the Bill of Rights. But it seems to be the beginning of the end of freedom, with the rescinding of Habeas Corpus, wiretapping and surveillance in the name of homeland security. And forget calling higher up into accountability for possible wrongdoing, executive privilege is claimed...
How many innocents are in prison, for crimes which they did not commit....I dare say, hundreds of thousands out of the tens of millions. But no one cares about justice, or the rule of law, or freedom..until it applies to you, personally, ah, then it becomes important...because you don't care about your fellow man.
You only care about yourself. And you're so arrogant as to think you and your ideas of how the world should work, that you invade the privacy and the privacy concerns of women, and instruct them, under revisions in the law, what they can and cannot do with their own bodies, and the contents therein. And when said contents are expelled, you absolve yourself of concern for those contents....then, you could care less about said contents, as it is subjected to abuse, neglect, murder, and poverty. Care before, don't care after....there's something wrong with that picture.
There's all this religious talk of condemnation of homosexuals, by people who sin everyday, but refuse to acknowledge their own misdeeds. How hypocritical...you know what is right and correct behavior for someone else, but you have skeletons in your closet, some scarier than homosexual skeletons. But you're self-righteous. In denial or blind (closer to the truth)
Yep...we need a whole lot more sensitivity training (starting at home, mind you), and tolerance in this country
I'm reminded of the saying, "There, but for the grace of God, go I"
We're only on this Earth a short while, yet we waste so much time with the "unimportant" or the "unproductive"...ain't nobody perfect, although so many pretend to be.

I've actually commented on this exact same thing before. The hawks talk about "our responsibility" to the Iraqi people, but the same people bitch and moan when they are asked to pony up for their fellow Americans. If you support spending billions on Iraqis that don't want us there, to further our own agenda, you are a patriot, if you want to use that same money to strengthen our borders, or help our infrastructure, and poor, you are a commie, pinko, treasonous, socialist pig. It's the absolutely most fucked up logic I have ever seen. Do I want to pay for Americas poor that don't want to, or can't help themselves? Not really, Do I want to pay for Iraqis backwards ass's to have the same? Hell ******* no.