Victory in Iraq, the Iran connection, and only the facts

Considering that the Soviets were lured into Afghanistan in 1981 to be drained, and the eventual break up of the USSR was credited to this drainage, it's a surprise that the US would allow itself to fall into the same hole, which has undoubtedly initiated it's decline. Iraq war is so dangerous that it threatens the very concept of modern nation-states. It was a war to start all wars.

Prior to 2003, Bush and Dick were caught personally leading raiding parties into Iraq, robbing it of oil and Arab women. They sold the oil to the Iranians, at outrageous prices, and the women, to Putin. They bagged millions.

BUSH LEADING A RAIDING PARTY ! IT CERTAINLY WASNT IN IRAQ :thumbup: HIS FARM IN TEXAS :thumbup:

Russia had been in and out of Afghanistan since the 1800's, even backing them against the British long ago. Some people say that the war help lead to their collapse, but they were hardly "lured" there.

We are obligated to fight radical Islam to the bitter end. It doesn't matter where we fight it, as long as we protect the homeland. Iraq is just one of many possible battlefields. Why not? Keep fighting.

America is not as smart as some believe it to be...
We learned nothing from the French occupation and attempted imperialistic designs on Indochine, which led to our involvement in the disastrous Vietnam War.
We learned nothing from the fiasco of Russia's attempt to subjugate Afghanistan, and are now "bogged down" there...and why?
The answer comes from watching the History Channel's special on "300", the story of the 300 Spartans and their defeat at the hands of the Persian Army, at Thermopylae. The reason the Spartans were able to hold off the Persian army is the war was fought at a pass, which proved sufficient enough to allow a tactical withdrawal of the Greek forces, which later regrouped for a victorious engagement at Salamis.
It's the reason Switzerland has never been invaded....passes.
It's the reason that tactical warfare cannot be won in Afghanistan...terrain and "passes".
American military prowess is not what it's cracked up to be...we need to get rid of the old, stale guard , and infuse the leadership with new, intelligent blood.....obviously. Generals "on the ground", who can't think outside of their own private Idahos.

Funny enough, if we had done the right thing, and sided with Iran in 1953 instead of the British, who knows where we would be nowadays.

Tell it like it is, Steel. Tell it like it is. AMEN!!!!!

Since Pinchot is so adamantly opposed to the radical Islam (or Islam period), which was deliberately fanned to fight the USSR during the 1980's, he should perhaps start addressing the next wave of radicals being created by the US.

"American scientists have declared that in ten years they will succeed in creating a radically new type of biological weapon. This weapon would be capable of infecting people according to a genetically predetermined marker such as skin color or eye shape. Infection could have a delayed effect or only begin once a certain type of medicine was taken. A recent closed seminar held by the CIA was devoted to the topic. The event took place as part of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC)."

Mark my words - like the radical Islamists created, these germs will mutate and come back to haunt you - "What goes around, comes around."

RedOct,
Thank you, for telling the truth. It just killed me when the substitute spokesperson for Press Secretary, Tony Snow, got up there and talked about "when you stir the hornet's nest"...as if she was "baking a cake"....
Imbecile. The ramifications are that you have made matters worse, not better, not acceptable collateral damage.
There was no frigging Al-Qaeda, in frigging Iraq, prior to our toppling Saddam...get that straight....the factions frigging feared Saddam, and they didn't dare "clown", lest their families be chopped up into little bits, slowly.
Saddam, whether you choose to admit it, kept everybody in line...and as soon as he was gone...there was nothing in place to maintain order. And we frigging made matters worst by dismantling the army, already in place, and replacing it with nothing. Blunder after blunder after frigging blunder.
The "ill-conceived" war in Iraq, made matters worse...and now it has become the breeding ground and training camp for terrorists, who will be marketed around the globe. Thank you George Bush and Dick Cheney. Thank you, and the stupid, short-sighted idiots who voted you into office, in the first place. Thank you.

Stick to what you know, Aaron: squat.

..there was nothing in place to maintain order. And we frigging made matters worst by dismantling the army, already in place, and replacing it with nothing. Blunder after blunder after frigging blunder.
The "ill-conceived" war in Iraq, made matters worse...and now it has become the breeding ground and training camp for terrorists, who will be marketed around the globe. Thank you George Bush and Dick Cheney. Thank you, and the stupid, short-sighted idiots who voted you into office, in the first place. Thank you.

This is not entirely true, we did replace their army with a local national gaurd, which suffered from lack of training, weapons and funding, as well as people joining then after being trained dissappearing with their weapons, only to be found later fighting against us. Iraq is also not a breeding ground for terrorism, it is more a recruiting ground, and not so much today, as it was a couple years ago. The big problem and mistake right now is our lack of continued action against other nations that harbor and finance terrorist, and fighters going to Iraq to fight us. BushCo is so inbed with the royal house of Saud that he will never act on the fact that they are supplying over 40% of the foreign fighters in Iraq, other than Cheney going and sweet talking the prince with a little limpwristed lipservice.

Nothing worse than a ho....as long as Saudi Arabia is "pimpin' and has lube (oil) Bush & Cheney will continue to take it up the nether regions, and not wince...at least in porno, no one gets killed (usually)