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Western Acceptance of War

 
 
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sun 28 Jan, 2007 09:48 pm
@Red cv,
complacent. Its excessive materialism has bred over-confidence, bordering on delusional, 'other-worldly' thinking. Reality is beyond its grasp, because it so desperately wants to remain in the lap of luxury. No price is too great, so it seems, for it to maintain its momentary, hedonistic lifestyle. The West is lost. It will take a nuclear attack to motivate it to fight for its survival. :no:
Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 30 Jan, 2007 10:54 am
@Tulip cv,
Tulip;9930 wrote:
The thing is that the war was declared on the wrong country, and now it is a big mess. Is Iraq any better without Hussin, we shall wait and see, since right now it is unstable. The West likes to be 'peaceful' and yet all the previous peace and prosperity came with a pricetag, the lifes of many people who fought in earlier wars. Fighting is a part of human history, and yet today people think that peace is just possible by protesting enough, by complaining enough, by ignoring enough. These are always those people who have never volunteered or enlisted and those are always people who have not been touched by events like 9/11.
Peace comes with a price, and sometimes the price is to stand by what you believe in and by defending it.
The peaceniks are those who would rather be photographed socialising with other peaceniks, and shouting words in a safe and abundant country, all awhile brave soldiers are protecting and defending the freedom in which they are laughing, sipping coffee, and congradulating each other on how peaceful they are...
It is more convenient to not accept a war, while enjoying the fruits of other people's sacrific.
You said a mouthfull. Ask a peacenik what price he would pay for peace? You'll be amazed at the answers.
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Tulip cv
 
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Reply Tue 30 Jan, 2007 11:10 am
@Pinochet73,
well here is one example of what a peacenik will pay, Jane Fonda fought through the courts to get money back she donated to Harvard {l think, anyone one of the big universities} yep, she wanted it back since she was broke...

and so, with the Islamic stance on issuing FATWAS to take over the world, in order for peace we need to hand over the world to them, just roll over and surrender everything...

then, it is not over, for as we allow Islamists to take everything, we have to look at the ancient teachings as they are being taught today...all unmurdered and untortured non_muslims are to be Dhimintude, according to the scriptures...in other words extortion in exchange for life.

examples such as the Imam in Australia for example who, in front of a crowd of five hundred followers, stated that the women deserved it.

examples such as the FATWAS issued to murder all Americans, to wipe Israel off the map, etc, etc.

So these peaceniks are asking for peace, and yet in supporting the war we too are seeking peace.

The difference is the price.

The pricetag of the peaceniks is either not thought out and idealistic rather than realistic, or they are willing to hand over all their homes and worldly possessions...

Which catagory do you think Janie is in?
Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 30 Jan, 2007 11:14 am
@Red cv,
Red;9938 wrote:
I wonder what would a peacenik do if someone came to their home, ordered them out and preceded to take over their home. The left on their own free will so in effect they gave their home away. Would the fight to regain their home, or go to welfare and demand another home. I'm guessing the latter because they seem to lack the moral fortitude or spine to stand up for what is right and just.
I think those peaceniks would soon change there tune. Any person of non violence i have discussed in person with this topic. At a certain point in the conversation i push them, i get a strange look at first, then i poke them in the chest. They then change there look, and get a different look in there eye. At that point most catch on to what i'm doing. I then ask how far will they let me go before they defend themselves. Most answer not much further. I then ask why they changed there passive ways? They do not like the answer they must give.
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Tulip cv
 
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Reply Tue 30 Jan, 2007 11:17 am
@Pinochet73,
ha, that is a perfect way to sum it up Dra...love it! Now, don't poke me-'kay?
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 30 Jan, 2007 11:19 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;9971 wrote:
complacent. Its excessive materialism has bred over-confidence, bordering on delusional, 'other-worldly' thinking. Reality is beyond its grasp, because it so desperately wants to remain in the lap of luxury. No price is too great, so it seems, for it to maintain its momentary, hedonistic lifestyle. The West is lost. It will take a nuclear attack to motivate it to fight for its survival. :no:

If that's what it takes, i have no doubt it is coming.
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Tulip cv
 
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Reply Tue 30 Jan, 2007 11:23 am
@Pinochet73,
yikes, l know l read that and thought...l just don't want to imagine this, l will concentrate on how the troops are going to succeed and this will somehow work out...
Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 30 Jan, 2007 11:27 am
@Tulip cv,
Tulip;10013 wrote:
well here is one example of what a peacenik will pay, Jane Fonda fought through the courts to get money back she donated to Harvard {l think, anyone one of the big universities} yep, she wanted it back since she was broke...

and so, with the Islamic stance on issuing FATWAS to take over the world, in order for peace we need to hand over the world to them, just roll over and surrender everything...

then, it is not over, for as we allow Islamists to take everything, we have to look at the ancient teachings as they are being taught today...all unmurdered and untortured non_muslims are to be Dhimintude, according to the scriptures...in other words extortion in exchange for life.

examples such as the Imam in Australia for example who, in front of a crowd of five hundred followers, stated that the women deserved it.

examples such as the FATWAS issued to murder all Americans, to wipe Israel off the map, etc, etc.

So these peaceniks are asking for peace, and yet in supporting the war we too are seeking peace.

The difference is the price.

The pricetag of the peaceniks is either not thought out and idealistic rather than realistic, or they are willing to hand over all their homes and worldly possessions...

Which catagory do you think Janie is in?
Hanoi Jane is scum! She has got a 2500 acre rance not far from Santa Fe. In Rowe NM, I have fished through her property. I've had the pleasure of pissing on her front gate. I had a friend from Australia who did some contract work when they were building her ranch. I don't think she liked the ride he took her on, yeah. She lost the court battle and he got what was owed him. A couple million, and went back to Australia. On his contract there was no mention of subcontracting. What he did instead of hireing earth movers to cut roads he bought/leased equipment and rented it to himself. I love it.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 30 Jan, 2007 11:29 am
@Tulip cv,
Tulip;10017 wrote:
yikes, l know l read that and thought...l just don't want to imagine this, l will concentrate on how the troops are going to succeed and this will somehow work out...
I hope and pray it works out.
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Tulip cv
 
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Reply Tue 30 Jan, 2007 11:33 am
@Pinochet73,
Really, Jane took your friend to court? My oh my, so it wasn't just university students she has tried to take advantage of...it is funny how she is the first to jump in on a 'peace' march, posing for the cameras etc., and yet be unwilling to pay the price for what she is claiming is the right way...what a anorexic silly nit-whit...

And about the pee, you realize that pee is an anticeptic? In the war they would pee on wounds in order to clean them...an acid. So you in fact kind of made her fence "cleansed", and considering how she treated you friend, that was one dirty fence...HA!!!
markx15
 
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Reply Tue 30 Jan, 2007 02:16 pm
@Pinochet73,
I am a sworn pacifist, but the non-violent solution does not belong to the USA, the rest of the world needs to step up and help out. I've said it once, and I'll say it again, if radical Islam beats the USA, then who is next? Here in Brazil, 80% of the population is catholic, that alone to them is reason enough for an attack. I do not intend on letting them do as they wish, who holds greater blame, the ones who destroyed to world, or the ones who sat around and let it happen?
Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 30 Jan, 2007 05:21 pm
@Tulip cv,
Tulip;10021 wrote:
Really, Jane took your friend to court? My oh my, so it wasn't just university students she has tried to take advantage of...it is funny how she is the first to jump in on a 'peace' march, posing for the cameras etc., and yet be unwilling to pay the price for what she is claiming is the right way...what a anorexic silly nit-whit...

And about the pee, you realize that pee is an anticeptic? In the war they would pee on wounds in order to clean them...an acid. So you in fact kind of made her fence "cleansed", and considering how she treated you friend, that was one dirty fence...HA!!!
I'm not shittin. It was a huge project. To homes over 85oo squarefeet, a ranch house, cut two roads over 2miles each to go through her ranch to the pecos river, huge stables because we know how hanoi like's to ride horses and Vietcong artillary, LOL. Never had the pleasure of working for her but from what i hear, is one class a BITCH.
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And about the pee, you realize that pee is an anticeptic? In the war they would pee on wounds in order to clean them...an acid. So you in fact kind of made her fence "cleansed", and considering how she treated you friend, that was one dirty fence...HA!!!

So what your saying is i mite of cleansed The tip of her finger on her touchkey entry pad, NICE! Maybe i'll go freshen up my handy work, LOL.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 30 Jan, 2007 05:27 pm
@markx15,
markx15;10023 wrote:
I am a sworn pacifist, but the non-violent solution does not belong to the USA, the rest of the world needs to step up and help out. I've said it once, and I'll say it again, if radical Islam beats the USA, then who is next? Here in Brazil, 80% of the population is catholic, that alone to them is reason enough for an attack. I do not intend on letting them do as they wish, who holds greater blame, the ones who destroyed to world, or the ones who sat around and let it happen?
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I do not intend on letting them do as they wish, who holds greater blame, the ones who destroyed to world, or the ones who sat around and let it happen?
Amen.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 30 Jan, 2007 06:13 pm
@Pinochet73,
Without JUSTICE, there can be NO lasting, authentic peace. Justice usually has to be fought for. That's life. Peace at any cost is not peace. :no:
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 30 Jan, 2007 06:16 pm
@Pinochet73,
Rally and fight for your future, heritage and destiny. Now is the moment. :headbang:
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Tulip cv
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 07:54 am
@Pinochet73,
You got my vote!
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Thu 1 Feb, 2007 05:55 am
@Pinochet73,
combatting Islam, and fight it with unwavering commitment. There should be TWO fronts -- military, first and foremost, and politico-cultural, whereby Muslim immigration into the Greater West is terminated permanently. This doesn't mean the West should submit itself to Zionist manipulation in the process, however; the West should fight first for itself, and only then the security and well-being of others. Yes, world improvement is the ultimate objective, but first the homefront must be secured. Setting Islam back another century or two, even farther back than it already is, appears imperative to the survival of both the West and Planet Earth, at large. :no:
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Thu 1 Feb, 2007 08:18 pm
@Pinochet73,
fanatical Muslims who follow hate-mongering, publicly vociferous Islamic preachers, England will not stop Muslim immigration.

The West has lost its mind, as well as its will to live. :no:
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Tulip cv
 
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Reply Thu 1 Feb, 2007 08:29 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pino, don't give up on the West...

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combatting Islam, and fight it with unwavering commitment. There should be TWO fronts -- military, first and foremost, and politico-cultural, whereby Muslim immigration into the Greater West is terminated permanently. This doesn't mean the West should submit itself to Zionist manipulation in the process, however; the West should fight first for itself, and only then the security and well-being of others. Yes, world improvement is the ultimate objective, but first the homefront must be secured. Setting Islam back another century or two, even farther back than it already is, appears imperative to the survival of both the West and Planet Earth, at large.
--the pinochet

I totally agree 199%..no 200% {my dog agrees too, he doesn't want to be eaten by those nasty dog-haters}, and l really like the way you summed it up, we need to understand the threat and strengthen our country...and that might not be possible, but then in history a lot of things that seemed impossible became possible...it takes commitment and a deep burning desire.

Sometimes it is the little people, on forums like this that share information, that are making an on-going effort, and bit by bit the understanding and desire grows.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 06:07 am
@Pinochet73,
Dedicated Christians who value their Western heritage must begin thinking in terms of uniting and actively resisting, through their own independent, group agency, the onslaught of those who seek their destruction. Clearly, government authorities throughout the West are not strong or lucid enough to protect the homefront. They've become so completely bogged down in Political Correctness, they no longer care about the societies over which they preside. And they absolutely dismiss the importance of maintaining any semblance of a Western heritage. In fact, many of them (in particular, the government of France), positively LOATHE their heritage and the religion upon which it is largely founded. Christian patriots the world over must begin thinking about re-shaping the global map. Modern nation-states have failed them miserably, and threaten to facilitate their eradication. Political leaders in the United States, for example, are almost totally irrelevant to the survival of Traditional America, regardless of the party to which they belong. Voting has become useless in terms of making a definite contribution to the security and longevity of a United States rooted in Western thought and culture. The world needs CHRISTIAN REVOLUTION.:no:
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