Western Acceptance of War

I listened to the following audio-book
Very interesting and very scary if true

Amazon.com: The Politically Incorrect Guide(tm) to Islam (and the Crusades: Books: Robert Spencer
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I have not listened to or read this one but it sounds interesting also
Amazon.com: The Truth About Muhammad: Founder of the World's Most Intolerant Religion: Books: Robert Spencer
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we now live in a state of denial. Tragically, we've already forgotten 911.:FU1:

Peace is the only path to peace, do you want an example, Tibet, they had a leader that realized that the place you live is not your home, and they left their lands peacefully, there is an example that we should all follow. You should not forget 9/11, but you have to forgive. I find it curious that most cristians can't follow through with half their "beliefs".

What has Hinduism done to help the majority of Indians, they who live in utter degradation? Perhaps you would have been better off by clinging to the Mauryan Empire, instead of the Gupta.:headbang:

fight it. There is no acceptable way to circumvent that basic fact of life.:no:

I have to admit that fighting seems almost necessary, as if the world was not yet prepared for peace.



It shows them how to make best of their situation. The remark does not extend to cristians alone, there are many in every religion who either wish not to or simply can't follow through with what they supposedly believe in.

No offense, but India is a mess from a social justice perspective. Belief systems that created that society need to be re-thought, in light of the mass suffering they helped create.:dunno:

It is undeniable that fisical suffering is existent in the Indian society, as it is all around the world, these belief systems do not remove the hunger, but they teach us how to live a complete spiritual life. Yes India is screwed up, mostly because of the social hierarchy that governs the country, but most Indians are not afraid to follow through with their beliefs, and live dignified lives.

"Yes India is screwed up, mostly because of the social hierarchy that governs the country..."

".....but most Indians are not afraid to follow through with their beliefs, and live dignified lives."

Well, then their beliefs must be screwed up, right? How can 'most' Indians 'follow through with their beliefs', and at the same time still live in a country screwed up by its social order?:wtf:

Imperial Britain played a big part in creating that society and its problems
and injustices. You have to rethink that belief system, also.

Weren't to sure of that post oleo?

The history of India is frought with suffering. If anything, Britain alleviated some of it -- not much, but some.:dunno:

believe the Democrats when they claim to be trying to pull U.S. troops out of Iraq. The truth is the U.S. cannot leave Iraq any time soon, period. There are forces at work determined to keep the U.S. there for many years to come- perhaps decades -- which the average American knows little, if anything, about. One is the seemingly omnipotent, yet nearly clandestine, Israel Lobby. The other is OIL, which America simply cannot survive without. This 'peace-craze' will blow over after Hillary Clinton seizes the Presidency in '08. After that, look out. Talk about a revisitation of Vietnam. Try to picture Hillary as a female version of LBJ. :headbang:

That picture hurts my brain .

An eye for an eye. We'll both be blind, but what the hell, right? We have our revenge?

I mean jeez, is that all that is important nowadays? Revenge? I'm out.

That's all. I'm in.:headbang:

Because that IS their belief system. We live, we suffer. There is no avoiding suffering, so that which is inevitable must be embraced. To the person on the outside this seems unreasonable, but you must understand that spirituality is of the spirit, and the spirit is your true self. This life could be compared to a dream, where you will wake up, and once you have, even having felt in your own blood what happened, you are no longer dreaming, and no longer do you worry yourself over the troubles you had dreaming.

Neville Chamberlin declared that he achieved "peace in our time" back in 1939 or there about. He was convinced that diplomatic and political pressure could prevail in that time of tribulation and impending violence. What he and many who followed him failed to understand was the true nature of the evil and intolerance that they were dealing with. A short time after Neville made his declaration Hilter began his invasion and WW2 began.
Peace is possible only when you are dealing with like minded individuals. Peace is possible when you are dealing with individuals who do not perceive the desire for peace against a foe as a sign of weakness.
The Muslim extremists upon whom this "war on terror" is focused relies upon that "weakness" to gain strength. He uses the sheep of the world to hide behind as a sheild then strikes when the back of the "infidels" (which is everyone who does not agree with his views) is turned. History repeats itself, everyday.

Nice first post.