Words and Deeds

What you fail to realize and many enemies (internal and external) to the USA fail to understand or refuse to acknowledge is the USA is a Christian country, founded by Christians, on Christian beliefs. The tolerance came by allowing people to live who blasphemed God's Word.

Christians are Children of Israel. The Jews are the chosen people. Christians became chosen by grafting into the vine when they accepted Jesus Christ's sacrifice, asked Him to come into their lives as their Lord and Savior, and obeyed His Word. Christians are charged by God's Word to defend His Word and work with other members of the Family of God.

This means, your breath is better spent in some other endeavour than attempting to convince committed Christians to abandon their support for Israel. You might as well ask someone to abandon their mothers, earthly fathers, children, brothers and sisters. This request/coersion will work on cowards, but not on those who fear not he who can only kill the body.

When politicians can't seperate their personal lives from their politics it puts others lives at risk.

Agreed, as long as it is for freedom for everyone, and not just those that believe the same. We are dividing our country between the "hard" left, and the neocons, and the people stuck in the middle. Everyones pointing fingers, blaming everyone but themselves. Such polarization in the name of this god or that god, does the country NO good.

Why is it that no one, i mean no one can asnwer my question?

what interests does Israel serve to the USA in the middle east?

such a straight forward question, needs only to be answered in points like this:

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and so on , instead i get a lesson in the history of christian-jewish relationships, ok its nice how you guys like each other just wonderfull , still thats not the reason why the US supports Israel, if you guys and girls dont know the reasons, why dont you just say so and i will stop asking.

We are all products of culture. Consciously or subconsciously, we act in accordance with the values it has instilled within us. Much of your thinking, for example, has been sculpted by a Judeo-Christian ethos, despite the fact you reject formal religion. :thumbup:

We have answered the questions. You just don't like the answers. Tough.

I don't really care if Saudi or Pakistan have freedom, or live under tyranical despots, I care about Americans first and foremost. If they can make a good life for themselves than that's great, but it's not worth giving up our freedoms for theirs.

Regardless of the majority religion, it's called secular. Our laws, while morality not withstanding are not made for christians, jews, muslims, but for the people of the United States...ALL of them. And like our laws, our foreign policy needs to reflect that.

It's the religion that molded the majority culture. Therefore, much of everything that culture is, does and wants, is Judeo-Christian, by nature. Ours is not a secular culture. You should know that, Texan. :thumbup:

Don't think so. American culture is a mix and match of cultures from everywhere, unless you think chiristian morals fostered baseball, and apple pie.

And what am I, chopped liver?

Maybe, but I am more inclined to think you are a bag of carbon and water that thinks.

Don't think so. American culture is a mix and match of cultures from everywhere, unless you think chiristian morals fostered baseball, and apple pie.

So it like that? No answer? Ok. It's cool.

That's just flat wrong, from a historical perspective. Did you pass the Social Studies TAKS? :wtf:

I don't really care if Saudi or Pakistan have freedom, or live under tyranical despots, I care about Americans first and foremost. If they can make a good life for themselves than that's great, but it's not worth giving up our freedoms for theirs.

Ok for the third time. . .What "given up" freedoms are you referring to?

Which freedoms am I refering to? Firearm confiscation in N.O.? How about warrantless search and seizure? Wiretapping? being imprisoned without being charged? Being able to move large sums of money without the government asking me why. Plenty of concessions have been made recently in the name of "security" I guess you are one of those "if you have nothing to hide, than who cares" types. I find people that don't comprehend the incremental stripping of freedom for what it is, not worth the freedom others have died to give them.

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

You probably think the SPP is nothing, and NAFTA is someones imagination. Nothing to see here folks move along, give your national ID card to the officer at the gate.

These are just some of many examples of what "great" wartime presidents have done to keep Americans and the Republic safe from her enemies. . .So with that said, perhaps you could cut this wartime president some slack seeing as, thus far, he has kept us safe from the attacks Al qaida and other radical muslim extremist groups keep claiming are coming

Bush has hardly "kept us safe". He hasn't even made any attempt WHATSOEVER to regulate the flow of illegal immigrants over our borders north and south. There was no procedures set in place to aid the barely 2% of traffic in our ports that gets searched, and I like their excuse, it's "too expensive". Of course dumping billions and billions a month into Iraq isn't somehow. This is even knowing how much absolute waste is going on over there. I saw a few very small examples of it while there, and have some even grander examples in my sig.

Sorry, I just don't buy the whole "Bush has kept us safe" BS. There weren't any attacks between 1993 and 2001, so I guess, after the first WTC attacks, Clinton kept us pretty safe huh? Personally, I think he failed big time since he was handed Osama on a silver platter, but didn't take it. Of course Carter must have REALLY kept us safe because hell, there weren't ANY terrorist attacks on US soil when he was president.

I have said it before, you probably weren't here then, so I'll reiterate. If this administration had made consistant progress across the board, as in actually physically securing America, or at least even ATTEMPTING to, and hadn't run the beginning of the war under such a load of changing BS, I would support it more. I don't like the neocon agenda, I don't like the globalist agenda, or the interventionalist agenda, but I hate the beating around the bush, no pun intended.

As far as having my newspapers censored, that's debatable. You get the same story with a different bias depending on the source, very little news today seems to me to be objective. Living in Germany during the beginning of the war, I got to see a lot of that, watching AFN and then watching the German news, it is night and day. Kind of like Faux news clinging to Giuliani, and not reporting anything, as much as completely removing Ron Pauls name from polls, where he beats Giuliani, it's disgusting.