Probe of Ft. Hood murders

I wonder if, being a Muslim in the military, he suffered abuse from fellow soldiers for his faith, and that this abuse played a role in his eventual meltdown. I live in a military city and know a great many soldiers, many who have fought in Afghanistan and Iraq. While not universal, there exists a general distaste for Muslims and a prolific use of derogatory slurs against them. It's part of the culture.

And what are the "red flags" that you claim were "all over the place"? Hasan being a Muslim? What else are you implying by your statement about political correctness being the reason he wasn't stopped?

His correspondence with the al-Qaeda sympathizer was thought to be related to research, and was monitored by the FBI, not the Army. Most people from the Army interviewed, who knew the guy, thought that there was nothing wrong with him. This is another issue where hindsight is 20/20...if the FBI were to implicate everyone who is known to be e-mailing radical thinkers as a terrorist, we would not have justice anymore than we do when some rogue nutjob goes on a shooting spree.

And what are the "red flags" that you claim were "all over the place"? Hasan being a Muslim? What else are you implying by your statement about political correctness being the reason he wasn't stopped?

His correspondence with the al-Qaeda sympathizer was thought to be related to research, and was monitored by the FBI, not the Army. Most people from the Army interviewed, who knew the guy, thought that there was nothing wrong with him. This is another issue where hindsight is 20/20...if the FBI were to implicate everyone who is known to be e-mailing radical thinkers as a terrorist, we would not have justice anymore than we do when some rogue nutjob goes on a shooting spree.

oh, kenneth-
does anyone think there is political correctness in america as far as muslims are concerned and that they are handled with kid gloves? i would think if anyone had any reason at all to dislike the guy for the color of his socks or any other unrelated reason he would have been shipped off to guantanamo in a heartbeat.

political correctness is not a bad thing, and it may be in evidence here and there in places where people actually use their brains, such as this forum-but it certainly is not within the american army or the fbi. they are about as politically UNcorrect as possible.

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great-
so the guy was american born, in the army, a psychiatrist and happened to be muslim.
how is this any different from any other armyman going berserk and killing his comrades? why should anyone fear backlash from muslims and obama is absolutely right in calling for an inquiry. if they investigated this guy and felt he was not a terrorist, everything was fine, right? what did they care if he was nuts and about to go berserk!

why is it terrorism, big bogeyman number one, is the only concern today in america? there are many more kinds of demons in society, not necessarily coming from other countries and different religions, sometimes within our own families.

He gave a talk and said that the Iraqis and Afgans were right to rise up against their enemies. He said many other things too. Read about it. If those were not red flags what would be? He may be just a "rogue nuthob". That remains to be seen. But someone can be a nutjob (but not just a nut job) and a terrorist at the same time. Witness all those suicide-bombers.

He gave a talk and said that the Iraqis and Afgans were right to rise up against their enemies. He said many other things too. Read about it. If those were not red flags what would be? He may be just a "rogue nuthob". That remains to be seen. But someone can be a nutjob (but not just a nut job) and a terrorist at the same time. Witness all those suicide-bombers.

Yeah, I'm with you man, the equation is simple.

Blowing oneself and others up with a bomb belt = NUTJOB.

Sitting in a plane miles from the target and showering it with bits of high-density radioactive metal, which if left in the area will contribute to the warping and miscarriage of unborn innocents for centuries to come = FAIR PLAY.

Clearly anyone who is angry about things like that is dangerously seditious and needs to be watched.

Why blow up innocent people? Many of them Moslems because you are angry about Americans? Yes. That is nutty.

I don't think Dave's point was that suicide bombers were not nutty, but that nutty might be rightly applied to those who cause harm to any innocents.

(I have no idea what Dave Allen is arguing, if anything at all. He is too busy wielding heavy-handed sarcasm to bother making a clear argument).

Why blow up innocent people? Many of them Moslems because you are angry about Americans? Yes. That is nutty.

Not at all nutty, and common at some point to all of humanity... We have all accepted group responsibility,..

It depends on the circumstances. Before and during D-Day (1944) Allied bombardment of Normandy killed more French civilians than Germans. But the landings, and subsequent advance would not have been possible without the bombardment. So, was the liberation of France and the rest of Europe, and the defeat of the Nazis worth the deaths of innocent French civilians? Even the French thought so. But terrorists actually target innocent civilians. Their purpose is to murder them. And that makes a difference, don't you think? (I have no idea what Dave Allen is arguing, if anything at all. He is too busy wielding heavy-handed sarcasm to bother making a clear argument).