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The Confederacy was About Slavery

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LionTamerX
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2011 07:56 pm
@farmerman,
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@LionTamerX,
He also missed the simple point that slavery was not actually abolished in the UNION until the ratification of the thirteenth amendment in 1865 ,after the Civil War had ended. So his argument about EMancipation and whatever other cokamamee crap he spouts, falls flat on its face.


Maybe we should start a thread called "The Ocean is About Seawater" and see what objections he raises.
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2011 08:00 pm
@farmerman,
If the only thing you get from that is slavery then you are thicker than two short planks nailed abeam . You can read ? You did read your post ? You cant see power and money ?

What caused slavery ? Nastiness or money ? What ended it ? Niceness or a power struggle ?

To say the Civil War was about freeing the slaves is the most simplistic ridiculous claim you could make .....was WWII about freeing the Jews ?

Gomer the Turd must seek help.....
for alcoholism, an inferiority complex, delusions of grandeur, xenophobia, racism, etc...
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2011 08:01 pm
@LionTamerX,
watch out, hes gonna start a slurpost about you. you are now on his shitlist and he just cant take people disagreeing with him.

We had a headline in oir local paper yesterday thats stated
FLOODING LINKED TO RECENT HEAVY RAINS.
So, there are some folks like ANUS out there.

"Be careful out among de English"
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2011 08:04 pm
@farmerman,
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He also missed the simple point that slavery was not actually abolished in the UNION until the ratification of the thirteenth amendment in 1865 , well after the Civil War had ended. So his argument about EMancipation and whatever other cokamamee crap he spouts, falls flat on its face.
????Have you changed sides ? If the war was all about ending slavery, why didn't it end with the war ? Perhaps you can cite a reference to where I said that argument that got you so riled up ? I would hate to think you are having your bad dreams again .
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2011 08:06 pm
@LionTamerX,
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Maybe we should start a thread called "The Ocean is About Seawater" and see what objections he raises.
Maybe you should raise a thread saying mining is all about saving minerals from the earth and see how well you can defend that bullshit too .
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LionTamerX
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2011 08:06 pm
@Ionus,
Have you read the O.P. ?
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2011 08:07 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
watch out, hes gonna start a slurpost about you.
You poor thing....you are so lonely arent you ?

Gomer the Turd must seek help.....
for alcoholism, an inferiority complex, delusions of grandeur, xenophobia, racism, etc...
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Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2011 08:09 pm
@LionTamerX,
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Have you read the O.P. ?
Yes. Have you ?
LionTamerX
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2011 08:20 pm
@Ionus,
I have indeed read it, and think it is right on the money.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2011 08:22 pm
@Ionus,
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Have you changed sides ? If the war was all about ending slavery, why didn't it end with the war
Somebody tell ANUS about the ratification process.
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2011 08:34 pm
@LionTamerX,
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I have indeed read it, and think it is right on the money.
So the rebel flag and re-enactment societies are pro-slavery.....will you tell them or shall I ?
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2011 08:35 pm
@farmerman,
Somebody tell Gomer the Turd the Union Army freed slaves . Many slaves just packed up and left, being free by default .

Why are you so stupid as to think the only history that exists is the one promoted by politicians ?
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2011 08:40 pm
@Ionus,
Somebody tell ANUS that there were a few slave states in the UNION even during the Civil War. The institution was finally abandoned by a (wait for it)............................A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2011 08:44 pm
@farmerman,
and here it is for our infomation...

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AMENDMENT XIII

Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Passed by Congress January 31, 1865. Ratified December 6, 1865.

LionTamerX
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2011 08:49 pm
@Ionus,
Quote:
@LionTamerX,
Quote:

I have indeed read it, and think it is right on the money.

So the rebel flag and re-enactment societies are pro-slavery.....will you tell them or shall I ?


The rebel (battle)flag is a symbol of the Confederacy, and therefore a symbol of the defense of the institution of slavery.

The re-enactors, or "living historians" are a mixed bag.

The folks who defend that flag and claim that it's about "heritage not hate" are living in denial.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2011 08:53 pm
@LionTamerX,
The irony is that they believe they can fool everybody else with their bigoted stance.
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2011 08:54 pm
@farmerman,
Dear Gomer the Turd.....

I expect your next stupid utterance to be about the sky being blue....exactly how do you propose that any of this proves the war was fought to free the slaves ?

Gomer the Turd must seek help.....
for alcoholism, an inferiority complex, delusions of grandeur, xenophobia, racism, etc...
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Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2011 08:55 pm
@farmerman,
WOW ! Did you copy and paste all by yourself ?? No ?? Well you dont get full marks then .
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Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2011 08:59 pm
@LionTamerX,
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The rebel (battle)flag is a symbol of the Confederacy, and therefore a symbol of the defense of the institution of slavery.
Really ? So the USA flag is a symbol of the attack against slavery.....will you be fighting to free Tibet ? North Korea ? What justification do you have for that flag, where even if your story is true, it represents a one hit wonder ? You have failed it and should not fly it .

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The re-enactors, or "living historians" are a mixed bag.
Snood doesnt think so . They are racists .

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The folks who defend that flag and claim that it's about "heritage not hate" are living in denial.
You know this because of your professional qualifications and having spoken to all of them ?
LionTamerX
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2011 09:03 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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The irony is that they believe they can fool everybody else with their bigoted stance.


I can understand that there must be a unique and powerful feeling of shame knowing that their ancestors fought and died to preserve such an indefensible evil, but enough is enough.
 

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