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Muslim Arrested in NYC Car Bomb Attack

 
 
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2010 11:25 am
@H2O MAN,
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Is there any chance these three are Muslim?


Is there any chance that the invaders in Iraq and Afghanistan are American or christian?
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2010 11:40 am
@JTT,


Invaders?

JTT, you're a jackass.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2010 11:59 am
@LionTamerX,
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If they had blown up the subways instead, we would have only seen the aftermath, and on a much smaller scale.


Sorry of the two attacks I am thinking of the view of a major city population being force to leave in a matter of days or the rotting bodies of 30 or 40 thousands men women and children would have been at least equal to the world trade center.

And the economic harm of the first event would have been hundreds of time greater then 911.

If you wish to do real harm then you need to do real harm instead of annoying people.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2010 12:01 pm
@H2O MAN,
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to kill innocent citizens should never be underestimated.


And going way overboard in the other direction is not helpful either.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2010 12:50 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

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the Islamic extremists and radical jihadists that are out to kill innocent citizens should never be underestimated.


And going way overboard in the other direction is not helpful either.


How could the Islamic extremists and radical jihadists go way over board in the other direction? And why would you want to help them?
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2010 12:53 pm
@BillRM,
It appears that Billy wants the Islamic extremists and radical jihadists to do a much better job of killing innocent citizens.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2010 01:47 pm
@H2O MAN,
That's right, invaders, H2oman. The USA illegally invaded Iraq and it illegally invaded Afghanistan. The Taliban were the ruling government of Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein was the ruling leader of Iraq.

It's terrorism to change or attempt to change the ruling government of any country by force or by covert activities. The USA is clearly guilty of terrorist actions against these countries, not to mention numerous others. The USA is by far, the most active terrorist nation on the planet.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2010 01:48 pm
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
It appears that Billy wants the Islamic extremists and radical jihadists to do a much better job of killing innocent citizens.


Give us a count of innocent citizens killed in the USA versus Iraq and Afghanistan, H2oman.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2010 02:22 pm
@H2O MAN,
And how is pointing out that they are not all that good helping them?

It is somehow in our best interest to overstate the threat of these gentlemen pose and not to do so is helping them?

You get a very strange mind indeed.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2010 02:33 pm
@JTT,
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Give us a count of innocent citizens killed in the USA versus Iraq and Afghanistan, H2oman.


Sorry but when we are attack in our homeland we tend not to give a **** how many others are kill as a by product of our defending ourselves or at least it is a very secondary concern.

If firebombing German and Japanese cities in needed we do it. If dropping atom bombs on men women and children of the country that attack us in needed to end the war we do it.

We in fact hardly the only country that act that way. An example is when the dumb French Admiral refused to placed his warships out of the reach of German hands good old Churchill order them sunk in their harbor.

To sum up if you wish your citizens to be safe from our attacks then just do not threaten our country or our security.

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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2010 03:14 pm
@JTT,
Give us a count of innocent citizens killed by Saddam.
Give us a count of innocent citizens killed by Islamic extremists and radical jihadists.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2010 03:17 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

That's right, invaders, H2oman. The USA illegally invaded Iraq and it illegally invaded Afghanistan.
The USA is clearly guilty of terrorist actions against these countries, not to mention numerous others.
The USA is by far, the most active terrorist nation on the planet.


You either have a twisted understanding of history or you are completely irrational.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2010 03:38 pm
@H2O MAN,
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Give us a count of innocent citizens killed by Saddam.
Give us a count of innocent citizens killed by Islamic extremists and radical jihadists.


While it is deplorable, it doesn't give the USA any right to interfere in another country, especially illegal invasions.

You still haven't given the count I asked for.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2010 04:14 pm
@H2O MAN,
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You either have a twisted understanding of history


Hardly.

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The Republic of Nicaragua v. The United States of America[1] was a 1986 case of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in which the ICJ ruled in favor of Nicaragua and against the United States and awarded reparations to Nicaragua. The ICJ held that the U.S. had violated international law by supporting Contra guerrillas in their rebellion against the Nicaraguan government and by mining Nicaragua's harbors. The United States refused to participate in the proceedings after the Court rejected its argument that the ICJ lacked jurisdiction to hear the case. The U.S. later blocked enforcement of the judgment by the United Nations Security Council and thereby prevented Nicaragua from obtaining any actual compensation.[2] The Nicaraguan government finally withdrew the complaint from the court in September 1991, following a repeal of the law requiring the country to seek compensation, thus settling the matter.[3]

The Court found in its verdict that the United States was "in breach of its obligations under customary international law not to use force against another State", "not to intervene in its affairs", "not to violate its sovereignty", "not to interrupt peaceful maritime commerce", and "in breach of its obligations under Article XIX of the Treaty of Friendship, Commerce and Navigation between the Parties signed at Managua on 21 January 1956."

The Court had 16 final decisions upon which it voted. In Statement 9, the Court stated that the U.S. encouraged human rights violations by the Contras by the manual entitled Psychological Operations in Guerrilla Warfare. However, this did not make such acts attributable to the U.S.[4]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua_v._United_States



Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2010 07:27 pm
@JTT,
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The Taliban were the ruling government of Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein was the ruling leader of Iraq.
They were illegal governments. You know, illegal ? That word you bandy around as though it is illegal for a policeman to shoot in self defence.

Quote:
The USA is by far, the most active terrorist nation on the planet.
You are not capable of doing anything but condeming your own kind.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2010 07:28 pm
@JTT,
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Give us a count of innocent citizens killed in the USA versus Iraq and Afghanistan
No, you give us a count of citizens killed in Iraq and Afghanistan by their illegal governments.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2010 07:35 pm
@JTT,
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The United States refused to participate in the proceedings after the Court rejected its argument that the ICJ lacked jurisdiction to hear the case.
Of course it has no authority. Why dont I set up a court and find you guilty of being stupid ? What control do you have over that court as a citizen as opposed to a court in your home country ? Who do you vote for who will ensure the court maintains its standards ?
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2010 07:49 pm
@JTT,
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While it is deplorable, it doesn't give the USA any right to interfere in another country, especially illegal invasions.


How silly can you be there is no world government so there is no such thing as an illegal invasion or a legal one for that matter.

We have the right because we can.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 17 May, 2010 09:59 am

http://www.investors.com/image/Web_Issues_Holder0517_345.jpg.cms

Holder's Got To Go
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 17 May, 2010 11:37 am
@Ionus,
No, they were not illegal governments. They were the governments that the USA and Australia and every other country had been dealing with for years.

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You are not capable of doing anything but condeming your own kind.


The kind of stupid, illogical tangents that you are famous for.
 

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