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Predict the NFL Super Bowl Champ. Win Big, Big Prizes*!

 
 
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 05:38 pm
@Seed,
Seed, I deliberately crafted my post so as to not mention the content of the ad. We here play despite our having very different opinions on the various political or social issue threads.
My point was about the change in advertising strategy that CBS is adopting. I did not intend to pull anything else into this thread.
Seed
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 05:42 pm
@realjohnboy,
My apologizes. I was not trying to start an argument left or right of the statement. I was just trying to add to the previous post.
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 06:05 pm
@Seed,
Quote:
There is already a big fuss about this. Apparently a woman's group is up in arms as the ad conveys an anti-abortion message.


Well-- the "woman's group" is free to take space to promote its pro-abortion message isn't it?

CBS "scrounging around for its next meeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaluh." Eh?

Don't we all?
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CowDoc
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 06:10 pm
@mysteryman,
Hang in there, pard. I haven't rolled a rig in thirty years, and haven't missed it a damned bit. I didn't have to deal with a cop car, at least. A semi with a hundred-fool cable came by and pulled my truck back onto the road, and that was after several other folks came by and helped me change the right front tire (while the outfit was still on its left side), lifted the vet box back into the bed, and pushed the truck back onto all four wheels. At that point, someone else gave the Miz a ride home (only a little over sixty miles) and I drove the truck back. Since it was totalled with both windshields knocked out and the roof caved in close to two feet, the drive back home with the wind blowing through the cab at single-digit temperatures was less than cozy. But I didn't have to deal with a cop car. I called the sheriff the next day, and a deputy came down and looked at the truck in my garage. He shook his head and left. Today, he and I are both county commissioners here. Not sure exactly what significance that has, but that's the way it is.
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JPB
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jan, 2010 07:14 pm
Quote:
NEW ORLEANS " As the Saints’ appearance in their first Super Bowl gets closer, the marketplace is being flooded with Saints merchandise and memorabilia as businesses are looking to cash in on the euphoria, but the NFL is cracking down on the use of their trademarks, including the iconic phrase “Who Dat.”

But who really owns “Who Dat”? Does anyone? Who is a “Who Dat?” What is a “Who Dat?” Who owns the phrase, “Who Dat?”

They’re all questions Fleurty Girl t-shirt shop owner Lauren Thom is being forced to answer.

“The NFL is not a company that I want to rock the boat with, but I definitely want to look into it further to see what my rights are,” Thom said.

Two weeks ago, Thom got a cease and desist order from the NFL.

http://www.whodatnation.com/2010/01/28/843/



I know a Whole Lot of Angry Saints fans right now.
Seed
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jan, 2010 07:17 pm
@JPB,
Instead of it being called a cease and desist order it should be called "hey little guy, stop trying to make any money into days shitty economy"
JPB
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jan, 2010 07:25 pm
@Seed,
Ah -- they're also going after the use of the fleur-de-lis...

Quote:
NEW ORLEANS | As the Saints march toward the Super Bowl, there's a chill in the midst of the Who Dat Nation. The National Football League has issued cease and desist orders to various local merchants, including infractions as small as a fleur de lis in the middle of the "o" in #whodat. When you're covering something this important to the city, you go to the source. As far as trademarks for “WhoDat?” is concerned, that’s Sal & Steve Monistere.

Steve recorded the Who Dat chant in 1983, and using that chant, he recorded the original "Who Dat" single with members of the Saints offensive line and singer Aaron Neville. Then, together, the Monistere brothers immediately embarked on one of the most ingenious marketing campaigns in sports history. And the Who Dat Nation was born.

Steve Monistere, a founding member of New Orleans' own party band The Topcats, read about the recent NFL actions regarding the use of Who Dat on NewOrleans.com. "I had heard about the cease and desist, and had seen this article," Monistere said. When reading the online user comments, he mentioned that "the third from the top is right on." (That comment describes the Monistere's hit song and the registration for trademarks of Who Dat).

Intellectual property is a thorny issue, and WhoDat?, Inc. has dealt with it often over the years. As trademark owners, the Monistere’s are not arguing whether or not a trademark has to be protected, but they do take issue with the way the NFL is going after small local business in a difficult economic time.

"Sure, a fleur de lis can belong to the Saints, but in very specific usage, and everybody knows what that is," Monistere explained. "If you go back to 1967, to date, they have registered and used the fleur de lis in a very specific way. They put it on the Saints helmet and on the Saints ‘shield.’ Its colors are very specific " they’re ‘old gold and black.’ But for the NFL to expand that definition and say that no matter what color and what style of fleur de lis, if you put it on an item, it means Saints, it is, as many believe, is just not correct. The fleur de lis belongs to everyone including the people of New Orleans.more
Seed
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jan, 2010 07:33 pm
@JPB,
Poor Boy Scouts... bout to loss their symbol Sad
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jan, 2010 07:36 pm
@Seed,
Think of the poor Catholic Church and its "holy Trinity" symbol. They wont be able to suck in your pinienzies for a Holy Trinity Tee Shirt.

Also, the fleur de lis is the odfficial symbol of Mardi Gras in Nawlins (when its in gold, green and pruple)
Seed
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jan, 2010 07:38 pm
@farmerman,
I don't understand how the NFL can take something and call dibs on it when it is so widely used
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jan, 2010 07:24 am
@farmerman,
Take a closer and more artistic view of it fm.
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George
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jan, 2010 07:30 am
Kind of ironic that "Who Dat?" would be considered intellectual property.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jan, 2010 09:59 am
@farmerman,
When did Quebec give Mardi Gras permission to use the fleur de lis? hunh?
George
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jan, 2010 10:27 am
@ehBeth,
Them Acadians took it and then changed their name to Cajuns to cover their tracks.
JPB
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jan, 2010 01:30 pm
This is getting interesting...

Quote:
U.S. Sen. David Vitter, R-La., has released a letter he wrote to National Football League Commissioner Roger Goodell about the NFL's claim that it owns the "Who Dat?" trademark.


The text of the letter, as released by Vitter's office, is below:

Dear Commissioner Goodell:

I was stunned to learn recently that the NFL is taking the position that it owns the exclusive trademark of the term "Who Dat" and has even threatened legal action against some mom-and-pop merchants selling t-shirts using the term. I would urge you to drop this obnoxious and legally unsustainable position and instead agree that "Who Dat" is in the public domain, giving no one exclusive trademark rights.

This letter will also serve as formal legal notice that I am having t-shirts printed that say "WHO DAT say we can't print Who Dat!" for widespread sale in commerce. Please either drop your present ridiculous position or sue me.

more
Seed
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jan, 2010 01:39 pm
@JPB,
That's outstanding. Made me laugh quite hardly!
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jan, 2010 02:59 pm
@Seed,
I liked "stunned" best. I also liked the forthright manner in which the sentiments behind it were expressed.

Maybe that should be "was expressed".

It doesn't look like I'm not the only one who has reservations about the rules and regulations of the NFL. I have no reservations about the rules and regulations of UEFA.

They are perfect. Honed to a fine art by a process all evolutionists ought to stand and gasp in admiration at. Not cobbled together on a drawing board to get a ball game rolling to cash in on the same act the Limeys were in on but making it look different enough so that it might be thought not to have been copied by casual observers.

Macs didn't bother about that. They want people to feel like they are stepping into America when they go through their doors. NFL doesn't want people to feel they are stepping back into Ye Olde Englande by playing "SOCCER!!!", said in the tone that meercat in the ads uses for Russia. (It's the Market dot com, not the Meercat dot com.) It's a brilliant ad. I'm surprised it hasn't caused a diplomatic incident.

In The Venture Capitalist's Office. A shorty story.

"A symbol of the feminine at each end, a goal, a net, a try, a touchdown--know what I mean sailor??Eh eh? --some men to struggle to get the ball into it or over or through it which is called a "score". People pay to watch it in Blighty. It's a cash cow. Just rough it out, get some guys to play it, see how they go, promote it and refine the rules to get a tight finish. Which won't, incidentally, always be possible. Not at first I mean. 64--0 scores are no good. You just have to get it with some certainty so that both sides can still win with 5 minutes on the clock. And with an additional twist they don't do in England--dancing girls who lead the cheering by jigging up and down, kicking their legs and twirling tazzles on their wrists when their side touches down or even scores a field goal. Or gets it in the net. Whadya think?"

That's a shorty short-story.

I would at least threaten to call the Senator's bluff. Backing down in the face of that load of assertions is hardly what one expects of an organisation like the NFL. I might threaten to have my cheer leaders at the Superbowl stamp on placards depicting his fissog in the pre-match rituals. I presume a cheer-leader is a highly sought after position.

*What does this WhoDat! signify?

***RIP JD Salinger. Read that again.







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JPB
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jan, 2010 03:54 pm
Who dat is Yat for Who is that? Yat is a dialect spoken in southern Louisiana.

Here's some more --

* Algerine or Algereen - a person from Algiers, New Orleans (Still common in Algiers, but now less common in other sections of the city except with older speakers)
* alligator pear - avocado
* All right - A greeting. The appropriate response is "All right!" or another greeting.
* Backatown - from "back of town", the section of the city of New Orleans located away from the River (formerly known as the "front of town" now rare), roughly from Claiborne Avenue to the Lake. (In the early 20th century, this often included anything back from Rampart Street.)
* banquette - the sidewalk
* Beebla A lazy way of saying "be able to".
* beignet - (IPA: [ˈbɛnjej]) a type of French doughnut, it is fried and has a lot in common with the sopapilla. Typically served with coffee or café-au-lait, they can be found at Café du Monde and other cafés throughout the city.
* brake tag - an inspection sticker on your car
* bobo - a wound or bruise
* boo - A term of endearment, said to be derived from "beaux". Familiar to New Orleanians for generations, in recent years it has spread to some other parts of the States, and particularly from White communities to African-American communities
* by [location] - to be at or in someplace; a replacement for "at" or "to" when referring to a destination or location.
* cap - "sir"; a form of address between men who are usually unacquainted; from "captain"
* Chalmatian - someone from Chalmette in St. Bernard Parish. Sometimes used humorously.
* charmer - a female Yat
* chief - a term of address used among men, indicating some respect
* cold drink - any soft drink
* Crab fat yellow - Something of a dark yellow color.
* Crack the glass - To lower the window of an automobile.
* Creole - this has come to be less of a specifically ethnic or linguistic term, but now is more of a general term applied to an item of New Orleans culture or cooking, such as creole tomatoes or creole seasoning
* dawlin - a term used by women as a form of address, or by men towards women. Differs from the Deep South 'dahlin' in that the vowel is very rounded.
* doubloon - a coin thrown out by Mardi Gras krewes
* down da road - typically used in St. Bernard Parish, the term is used as travel direction for someone traveling to lower St. Bernard Parish on St. Bernard Highway (Louisiana Highway 46); this is also a popular slang for residents of Plaquemines Parish when traveling south on Louisiana Highway 23 or as a location "down da road" (the "down" and related "up" are in relation to the natural flow of the nearby Mississippi River; up meaning against the flow while down meaning with the flow)
* dressed - to have condiments on a Po-boy, burger, or any other sandwich; typically lettuce, tomatoes, mayonnaise, and sometimes pickles
* esplanade - (IPA: [ˈɛsplənejd]) a walkway; also, the name of a major avenue (Esplanade Avenue)
* faubourg - (IPA: [ˈfab?"ʷɡ]) a suburb or neighborhood, used in context of a particular area such as Faubourg Bouligny (This is no longer used as a common noun, but refers to neighborhoods, such as the Faubourg Marigny)
* flying horses - a merry-go-round, Carousel horses, or specifically the merry-go-round in City Park New Orleans
* fa sho or f'sure- for sure, a statement of agreement
* fa true or f'true- for true, a statement of truth
* fo - used instead of the prepositions at or by when referring to time, likely a shortening of "before"
* Frontatown - the section of New Orleans from Claiborne Avenue to the river (rare with recent generations)
* ginny woman -what you call any neighborhood man who gossips and gets involved in women's business
* go cup or ice berg - a paper or plastic cup for consuming alcohol, soft drinks, or other beverages on the go, usually in public
* gout - French for "taste", usually in the context of coffee
* grip - a small overnight bag, schoolbag, or suitcase
* gris-gris - a Voodoo spell, either malicious or for protection (now rare other than in tourism pamphlets and some people who actually practice certain types of voodoo)
* heart - identical in meaning and usage to dawlin', and also pronounced with a severely rounded vowel
* hickey - a knot or bump on one's head
* house coat 'n' curlas - many middle to lower class yat women wear a robe and have their hair in curlers while out shopping, especially for groceries
* huck-a-bucks or huckle-bucks or cold cups - Frozen Kool-Aid in a Dixie cup
* indicator - a turning signal on a car, also called a 'blinker'
* inkpen - a ball-point or any type of pen
* I heard dat - agreement or affirmation, see yeah, you right
* K&B Purple - the distinctive shade of purple used by the defunct New Orleans-based drug store, K&B
* lagniappe - (IPA: [ˈlænjæp]) a little something extra
* make dodo - sleep, or go to sleep; from the Cajun French "fais do do"
* make the block - to go around the block
* make groceries or makin' groceries - to go grocery shopping; this phrase probably originated from the French expression for grocery shopping, "faire le marché"
* Mardi Gras - a city wide pre-Lenten celebration, literally "Fat Tuesday"
* marraine - (IPA: [məˈræn]) one's godmother (see also "nannain")
* maw-maw - one's grandmother
* mirliton - a chayote (see also "alligator pear")
* mosquito hawk - a dragonfly
* muffuletta - (IPA: [mʊfəˈlaɾə]) a famous Italian New Orleans sandwich, invented at Central Grocery
* nannain - (IPA: [nəˈnæ̃]) one's godmother, same a marraine (see also "marraine")
* neutral ground - a street median
* naturally nawlins - a phrase coined by WWL-TV personality Frank Davis (a king of the Yats). It means a word, an experience, or something that represents a concept that is uniquely from the New Orleans culture, which embodies the concept of joie de vivre (the joy of life). For instance, having friends and family over on Easter Sunday to suck heads and squeeze tails while drinking Dixie Beer is "naturally Nawlins".[citation needed]
* over by [location] - to be at or in someplace; a replacement for "at" or "to" when referring to a destination or location, as in "run me over by the store" or "I'm going over by my momma and thems house"
* parain - (IPA: [paˈræː]) one's Godfather
* parish - a state administrative district equivalent to a County (United States) in the rest of the United States; da parish usually refers specifically to St. Bernard Parish. Formerly in Uptown, "da parish" referred to Jefferson Parish.
* parlor - the living room
* parraine or parran - (IPA: [pəˈræn]) one's godfather (see also "parain")
* passion mark - a hickey
* po-boy - (IPA: [ˈp?"ʷb?"j], [ˈpoʷb?"j]) a New Orleans submarine sandwich, made on French bread in many varieties; some of the most popular are hot roast beef and fried shrimp
* praline - (IPA: [ˈpr?"ʷlin], [ˈpralin], never [ˈprejlin]) a New Orleans confection made with pecans, sugar syrup, and cream
* regular coffee - coffee with sugar and milk; not black coffee
* Schwegmann's bag or Schwegmann bag - a unit of measurement; refers to the large brown paper bags in which defunct local New Orleans grocery chain Schwegmann Brothers Giant Supermarkets packed groceries
* shoot d'shoot- A slide at a playground
* silver dime - A dime
* snowball - a frozen treat similar to a sno-cone, but made of 'shaved ice' and not crushed ice. A snowball stand will have 30 or more flavors, not counting 'cream' flavors (contains evaporated or condensed milk mixed in).
* to pass a good time - to have a good time or to have fun.
* to pass by - to stop and visit someplace, such as a person's house
* shotgun house - a style of architecture found all over the city. In the French style of planning, plots of land along a river are long and thin, so the houses also came to be long and thin. A shotgun house typically has a living room followed by a bedroom followed by a kitchen followed by another bedroom, with the doorways all in a row " so named because one could fire a shotgun through the front door and the round would exit the back door unhindered.
* to stay - to live, to reside. "Where ya stay?" is a common expression meaning "Where do you live/reside?".
* suck the head, squeeze the tail - a phrase that describes the local technique for eating crawfish
* throw cup - reusable plastic cup such as those as thrown from Carnival floats. See "go cup" above.
* throw me somethin', mista! or tro me somethin', mista! - the traditional phrase yelled out to passing floats during Mardi Gras
* Where y'at? - the traditional New Orleans greeting; equivalent to "what's up?" or "how are you?" The only appropriate response unless something is wrong is "All right." or "aright"
* Up da road - typically used in St. Bernard Parish, the term is used as travel direction for someone traveling to upper St. Bernard Parish on St. Bernard Highway (US Highway 46); also used in Plaquemines Parish when traveling north on Louisiana Highway 23 or referring to the northern end of Plaquemines Parish
* Who dat?- Who is that?
* Wutsapnin or 's'happenin' - another New Orleans greeting derived from "What is happening?"
* y'all - second person plural, one of the few common linguistic traits shared with the rest of the US Deep South
* ya'mom'n'em - "your mom and them" meaning your family
* yeah, you right - New Orleans equivalent to "yes, I see your point;" often used as a more emphatic way of showing agreement

wiki source and history
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jan, 2010 04:11 pm
Weeeaaaal hush mah mout!!
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JPB
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jan, 2010 07:30 pm
And on the high brow end of the spectrum...

Quote:
The heads of the Indianapolis Museum of Art and the New Orleans Museum of Art have made a Super Bowl wager: The IMA will loan William Trevor's The Fifth Plague of Egypt, to NOMA if the Colts lose the Super Bowl. If the Saints lose, NOMA will loan Claude Lorrain's Ideal View of Tivoli.
 

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