Amanda Knox

@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

They're the ones who brought up a murderer. Why do you think we should keep quiet when pig ignorant Americans insult and denigrate the memory of a murdered British girl. You may think that being an American gives you the right to torture and rape people from other countries and then insult their memory but I don't.

You shouldn't keep quiet as far as criticizing people who denigrate the Kerchers, but denigrating the Knox family is hypocritical.

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@wandeljw,

Of course it is because they're American. Your criticism of Oralboy and has been muted to say the least, and if Meredith Kercher had been another American you would not be behaving like this. The whole case has shown the contempt for British lives felt by Americans like Gungasnake, Oralboy and you. Very worrying indeed when you consider how many American troopps on British bases share those sentiments.

I'm not taking any lectures from a sanctimonious hypocrite like you.

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@izzythepush,

I mean, sure it's a shame about the British girl getting raped and murdered, Poop, but it doesn't really sound like Amanda Knox or her boyfriend had anything to do with it, either from Oralloy's description or from Wikipedia's description of the affair.

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@gungasnake,

gungasnake wrote:

Whole family sounds like complete trash. I can see why izzythePoop seems to favor them...;

At least the spread of STDs in Europe dropped when Kercher got herself killed.

gungasnake wrote:

Cases worth worrying about would include the Patty Hearst case, all of the various mass abuse witchcraft trials of the 1980s, the Wenatchee Wash. case, all of Janet Reno's witchcraft trials, Grant Snowden, Bobby Fijnje, Frank Fuster who's still rotting in a Flori-duh prison for **** which never happened, Gerald Amirault who still has to walk around with some sort of an ankle bracelet for more **** that never happened, the Duke Lacrosse case, the recent Zimmerman case, and any number of others.

Yes. I wish someone would manage to reform our system and compensate all our victims.

One thing I have to give Texas props for (even though I am horrified at the rate that they execute people who could possibly be innocent) is the way they compensate innocent people. Not nearly as much as I think they should be compensated, but far better than other states do.

gungasnake wrote:

I once heard testimony about a case like one of those which never happened because a prosecutor like Nifong had the nature of reality explained to him with the barrel of a 44 right up against his nose...

That could be dangerous. The prosecutor might keep going at the case and bring additional charges against the person who threatened him.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

Like Oralboy you get off on torture and rape. The family that are complete scum are the Knox's obviously not as backward and inbred as you and Oralboy but complete lowlife filth all the same.

Nope. The Knox's are decent Americans. You'll never see them pull a Kercher and try to send innocent people to prison so they can steal their money.

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@wandeljw,

wandeljw wrote:

Why describe the Knox family with the same unfairness oralloy uses towards the Kerchers?

What unfairness?

It it or is it not a fact that Meredith Kercher was letting the guy in the downstairs apartment hump her up her rear (sorry, don't really know how to put that delicately) in exchange for drugs?

Is it or is it not a fact that this same downstairs guy introduced Amanda and Kercher to Guede (leading ultimately to Kercher's rape and murder)?

Is it or is it not a fact that when the Kerchers found out about Raffaele's inheritance, they sued Amanda and Raffaele for millions of Euros?

Is it or is it not a fact that the Kerchers have relentlessly fought in court to get corrupt Italian judges to block any examination of the alleged evidence?

Is it or is it not a fact that the persecution of Amanda and Raffaele had the inadvertent effect of having Guede's sentence reduced from LIFE to 30 years, and then further to 16 years (with him being eligible for "daytime release" any day now)?

All I'm doing is truthfully criticizing the Kerchers for what they've actually done. How exactly is that unfair?

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

They're the ones who brought up a murderer.

Guede is going to be in the news because of the simply delightful irony that the Kerchers' persecution of Amanda and Raffaele had the unintended consequence of reducing Guede's sentence from LIFE to 30 years to 16 years. And he is just about to become eligible for "daytime release".

It'll be nice to see Guede walking down the street in broad daylight, don't you think?

If Guede is willing to start behaving a bit better, he should be welcomed back to the community with open arms. Let bygones be bygones.

izzythepush wrote:

Why do you think we should keep quiet when pig ignorant Americans insult and denigrate the memory of a murdered British girl.

Pointing out that "Kercher was a whore who got herself killed" is simply telling the truth. If Kercher had not been whoring for drugs, she never would have been introduced to Guede.

izzythepush wrote:

You may think that being an American gives you the right to torture and rape people from other countries and then insult their memory but I don't.

Guede isn't American. He is from the Ivory Coast I believe. I wouldn't say Guede tortured Kercher exactly.

What Guede did was cut Kercher's throat, and then rape her as the blood was gushing from her neck. Then he took her phones and locked her in her room, and went out dancing at a nightclub while she slowly drowned in her own blood on the floor of her room.

I'm not sure it is really possible to insult the memory of a whore who got herself killed. But anyway, bygones. The whore is dead. Now it is time to look forward to welcoming Guede back into the community as his thrice-shortened sentence draws to an end and he becomes eligible for "daytime release".

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@wandeljw,

wandeljw wrote:

You shouldn't keep quiet as far as criticizing people who denigrate the Kerchers,

Criticism for telling the truth?

Have the Kerchers fought relentlessly to block any examination of the evidence from ever taking place, or haven't they?

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

if Meredith Kercher had been another American you would not be behaving like this.

You have no comprehension of ethics, and so should not attempt to predict the act of an ethical person.

If an American were to ever do something as evil as the Kerchers have done, ethical Americans would find it quite repugnant.

izzythepush wrote:

The whole case has shown the contempt for British lives felt by Americans like Gungasnake, Oralboy and you.

If you wanted the little whore to be respected, you shouldn't have used her as a weapon to destroy the lives of innocent people.

It's a little late for that now. Someone should dig her corpse up and feed it through a wood chipper. And put the video of that on the internet for all to enjoy.

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@gungasnake,

gungasnake wrote:

from Wikipedia's description of the affair.

Wikipedia is actually one of the unbelievable subplots of this case.

While anyone can edit most articles, they have a hierarchy of people in the background with administrator or moderator powers, and some high ranking people from the UK wrote a horribly misleading article demonizing Amanda and Raffaele, and then banned the accounts of anyone who even tried to point out facts to the contrary.

This lasted until ultimately the guy who owns Wikipedia stepped in and forcefully rewrote the article.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

While anyone can edit most articles, they have a hierarchy of people in the background with administrator or moderator powers, and some high ranking people from the UK wrote a horribly misleading article demonizing Amanda and Raffaele, and then banned the accounts of anyone who even tried to point out facts to the contrary.

This lasted until ultimately the guy who owns Wikipedia stepped in and forcefully rewrote the article.

When you look at the IP-addresses of those, who wrote corrections and added something to the article "Murder of Meredith Kercher" during the last 12 months, you can easily notice that most contributors came from Switzerland, narrowly followed by those from the USA.

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@oralloy,

I normally warn people off wiki with this observation: that wiki is a marvelous resource for any sort of topic for which no controversy could plausibly exist, but worthless for anything else.

In the case of Amanda Knox, there appear to be several wiki pages including one which is highly biased against Knox, but information on at least one of the others struck me as a bit more believable and would not lead anybody to think Knox was guilty of anything.

It is sort of telling that Knox's Italian boyfriend is staying in Italy for the outcome of the trial which could send him back to prison. I don't picture him doing that were he guilty of anything.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

You have no comprehension of ethics,

From a piece of crap who spends his time fantasising about killing children that's rich. You are complete filth.

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@oralloy,

This appears to be a reasonable account of what happened:

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-neverending-nightmare-of-amanda-knox-20110627

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@oralloy,

British and Italian tabloid press appear to be part of the problem in this case.....

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@oralloy,

Ben a while... You think Poop (izzythepoop) might have given up on this one or something?

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I'm still here. I'm the last to say italian justice is perfect, but I'm also last to say the u.s.' is.

Obviously I have blocked to me posts by a guy who wants to bomb italians and works to be thread killer.

I now know lots more of bad stuff in italian justice than I did before (but I got it before -- see the opening post by me), so I'm more educated - but I got a lot of that in the first place, when I started this thread, having read for years. Read some Carofiglio. Or, actual accounts of this and that.
On the other hand, I know quite a bit about our own messups.

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