Amanda Knox

@izzythepush,

Wandel is to the right of me but I always listen.

I doubt most of us reading have contempt re british lives lost.

@ossobuco,

ossobuco wrote:

works to be thread killer.

As if "me consistently posting timely and accurate information about the case throughout the entire history of the thread" was detrimental.

ossobuco wrote:

I now know lots more of bad stuff in italian justice than I did before

Nonsense. You are only here to obstruct any factual discussion about what Italy is doing, just as always.

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@ossobuco,

ossobuco wrote:

I remain not knowing what our suspects did or didn't do.

Your game where you deny the proof of Amanda and Raffaele's innocence by "refusing to consider the evidence and then making bogus claims of ignorance" is really really disgusting.

You sicken me.

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@ossobuco,

ossobuco wrote:

Oh, and I suppose I am evil. How to diminish a word.

It is a fair term for a scumbag who strives to aid the cause of injustice.

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@gungasnake,

gungasnake wrote:

Ben a while... You think Poop (izzythepoop) might have given up on this one or something?

Not likely. Probably nighttime in England. Or maybe it's morning. Too much time zone calculation for me to figure out right now.

I've found that anyone who supports the vile Palestinians, will always support sending innocent people to prison. It's like once someone is evil enough to cross certain moral lines, they just support all evil uniformly.

So unfortunately the little freak will be back here spewing more hate and lies before we know it.

I'm working on a longish reply to your post with the Rolling Stone article. But it requires more work before it is ready to post.

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@gungasnake,

gungasnake wrote:

In the case of Amanda Knox, there appear to be several wiki pages including one which is highly biased against Knox,

That would be the one run by the guilters. Don't let them get your IP address if you contradict their ideology.

gungasnake wrote:

It is sort of telling that Knox's Italian boyfriend is staying in Italy for the outcome of the trial which could send him back to prison. I don't picture him doing that were he guilty of anything.

If he stays, that's folly. While it is hypothetically possible that this court could do the right thing, there have been more than enough signs that this is a show trial that intends to ignore the evidence and convict the innocent.

I really hope Raffaele's lawyers convince him to change his mind and hop on a plane back to the Caribbean. He can return to Italy once the European Court of Human Rights sorts things out.

gungasnake wrote:

British and Italian tabloid press appear to be part of the problem in this case.....

I really wish Amanda would sue them for libel.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

When you look at the IP-addresses of those, who wrote corrections and added something to the article "Murder of Meredith Kercher" during the last 12 months, you can easily notice that most contributors came from Switzerland, narrowly followed by those from the USA.

Interesting. I wonder why Switzerland.

Can you look at other time periods, or just a fixed review of the past year?

The years blur together now in my memory, but based on the date of this old post from wandeljw, I would guess that the battle for Wikipedia took place sometime around March 2011:
http://able2know.org/topic/138895-28#post-4549647

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@wandeljw,

oralloy wrote:

wandeljw wrote:
You shouldn't keep quiet as far as criticizing people who denigrate the Kerchers,

Criticism for telling the truth?
Have the Kerchers fought relentlessly to block any examination of the evidence from ever taking place, or haven't they?

Let's start here:

Kercher vermin successfully getting a judge to avoid all scrutiny of fraudulent evidence in the first trial:

Quote:

The Kercher family's attorney, Francesco Maresca of Florence, argued, however, that the court already had plenty of material to review. "We all know that in all trials of this nature there are different analyses of forensic evidence made by the various expert witnesses," he said. "The court must now consider the seriousness and integrity of the experts' testimony."
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Court-rejects-independent-review-of-Knox-888453.php

Kercher vermin attempting to get a judge to avoid scrutiny of the fraudulent evidence in the first appeal:

Quote:

Francesco Maresca, representing the Kercher family, said:''The arguments presented by the defence have all been played out in Oggi magazine (glossy Italian weekly) and we run the risk of never ending justice. If we accept this arguments then any trial could be blocked.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339739/Amanda-Knox-appeal-Court-allows-review-DNA-evidence-used-convict-her.html

Kercher vermin whining that they've failed to block scrutiny of the fraudulent evidence:

Quote:

Francesco Maresca, an attorney for the Kercher family, said he was "disappointed" with the decision, suggesting that the ruling was political in the face of pressure from the United States.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/12/18/italy.knox.appeal/

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

Interesting. I wonder why Switzerland.

Because some persons are following the trial there, have Italian as mother tongue, know at least two other languages fluently ...

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

Can you look at other time periods, or just a fixed review of the past year?

You can look up the history of any article since it was created.
And not only re this article (and in 2011) but with most controversial wiki-articles you'll find "Administrator intervention against vandalism"

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

And not only re this article (and in 2011) but with most controversial wiki-articles you'll find "Administrator intervention against vandalism"

But that is not what happened here.

What happened here was that the administrators were the vandals. This was a case of "owner intervention against administrators".

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@oralloy,

Why? It has been used against spam, due to user reports, bot attacks ...

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@ossobuco,

There's plenty that do. Had Kercher been American Wandel's reaction would be completely different. Gungasnake insults the family of a murdered British student, and I respond accordingly attacking the family who raised a murderer. Who does Wandel criticise? Well the uppity Brit of course, for daring to criticise an American.

Both Gunga and Oralboy delight in the murder of British citizens, Oralboy similarly insulted Lee Rigby and his family. Wandel's not much different.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Why?

Because "administrators committing abuses and being rebuked by a site's owner" is different from "ordinary users committing abuses and being rebuked by administrators".

Walter Hinteler wrote:

It has been used against spam, due to user reports, bot attacks ...

I don't believe Wikipedia administrators have ever committed such abuses, or have been admonished for such by Wikipedia's owner.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

Had Kercher been American Wandel's reaction would be completely different.

Not likely.

I should probably let him speak for himself, but I seriously doubt that he'd support lynching innocent people just because an American was killed.

izzythepush wrote:

attacking the family who raised a murderer.

As usual, the only thing you did was falsely accuse innocent people of murder.

Anyone who is scuzzy enough to support Palestinian vermin, always supports atrocities against innocent people. Just something about you scumbags that makes you scummy I guess.

izzythepush wrote:

Both Gunga and Oralboy delight in the murder of British citizens, Oralboy similarly insulted Lee Rigby and his family. Wandel's not much different.

Your lies are pretty stupid, even for you.

How many days (hours?) until Guede is up for "daytime release"? I can't wait to see him walking free.

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@gungasnake,

oralloy wrote:

gungasnake wrote:
In the case of Amanda Knox, there appear to be several wiki pages including one which is highly biased against Knox,

That would be the one run by the guilters. Don't let them get your IP address if you contradict their ideology.

Just a few hours ago a brand new wiki went live. It was created with the intent of directly challenging that guilter wiki.
http://murderofmeredithkercher.com/

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@oralloy,

A totally one-sighted supporter website.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

A totally one-sighted supporter website.

One-sided only in that they adhere to the truth instead of spewing lies.

Some of us think "always telling the truth" is a plus.

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@Walter Hinteler,

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Because some persons are following the trial there, have Italian as mother tongue, know at least two other languages fluently ...

Basic cold, hard reality...

The world is getting smaller very quickly in this age of worldwide television and media. Television has pretty much killed the southern accent in the U.S. In Texas, you hear it only amongst older people, everybody else has learned to speak from television and they all sound like people from the mid Atlantic region.

In another 20 - 30 years, there will probably be 10 or 20 languages spoken in the world. My own best guess would be that survivors will include:

1. Two Germanic languages, English and German.
2. Two Romance languaes, French and Spanish.
3. One Slavic language, Russian.
4. Two Semitic languages, Hebrew and Arabic.
5. One subcontinent language, Hindi.
6. Four East Asian languages, Mandarin and Cantonese Chinese, Korean, and Japanese.

It isn't clear that anything else will or should survive. Learning any sort of a language past your first one is enough work that you're not doing anybody any favors by making them learn Swedish, Danish, Dutch, or any of the ones which nobody's going to need or use in 20 years.

In particular I don't see a need for Italian. In fact, if Italians were all to learn to speak French, they might could develop some sort of a decent opera.

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@gungasnake,

And that does explain why there have been so many moderators from Switzerland on Wikipedia?

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