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Amanda Knox

 
 
oralloy
 
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Mon 20 Jan, 2014 11:32 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
In Italy, like in most other countries, the prosecution isn't part of the court but of the trial.

Wrong. Italy is a third-world hellhole with nothing resembling a civilized system of justice.
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wmwcjr
 
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Tue 21 Jan, 2014 06:07 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
If Italy does have the temerity to ask, we should respond to that request by killing hundreds of Italian children.


Huh? I implore you, my good sir, to cease from making such outrageous statements. They are likely to give you a kooky image. (But I must admit they are, shall we say, colorful. Drunk )
oralloy
 
  -1  
Tue 21 Jan, 2014 09:51 pm
@wmwcjr,
wmwcjr wrote:
oralloy wrote:
If Italy does have the temerity to ask, we should respond to that request by killing hundreds of Italian children.

Huh? I implore you, my good sir, to cease from making such outrageous statements.

Exactly how is my proposal outrageous??

If Italy has the temerity to even ask for extradition, that will be outrageous.

Responding with a military strike that kills hundreds of Italian children seems reasonable and proportionate to me, when measured against what Italy is doing.


wmwcjr wrote:
They are likely to give you a kooky image.

Nah. They give me the image of someone who stands up for what is right and who always tries to do the right thing.
wmwcjr
 
  2  
Tue 21 Jan, 2014 11:07 pm
@oralloy,
Perhaps I should have kept out of this. After all, I know nothing about this case. Embarrassed Mr. Green But be that as it may, . . .

oralloy wrote:
Responding with a military strike that kills hundreds of Italian children seems reasonable and proportionate to me, when measured against what Italy is doing.


But . . . but . . . but we're talking hundreds of innocent children! Shocked Confused I don't think that's approved by the Geneva Convention. Mr. Green

Gee willikers, I'd sure hate to get on your bad side! Wink Oh, well, amazing rhetoric makes for entertaining reading. Cool Laughing Mr. Green

McTag
 
  3  
Wed 22 Jan, 2014 01:53 am

Gosh. Someone, no doubt well-intentioned, tried to involve Oralloy in rational discourse.

Whatever next.
izzythepush
 
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Wed 22 Jan, 2014 02:26 am
@wmwcjr,
You're surprised that Oralboy is fantasising about killing children? That's what he does, that's the sort of creature he is. Complete filth.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Wed 22 Jan, 2014 03:46 am
@wmwcjr,
wmwcjr wrote:
Perhaps I should have kept out of this. After all, I know nothing about this case.

Well, I would certainly advise against drawing conclusions if you are not familiar with the case. However, I suspect that you are wise enough to already know that.

As for posting, you and Hawkeye are welcome to post in this thread as far as I'm concerned. This thread is polluted with a lot of scumbags. It's always nice to have some fellow humans around instead of just responding to vermin all the time.


wmwcjr wrote:
Gee willikers, I'd sure hate to get on your bad side! Wink

Not much chance of that so long as you don't support horrendous atrocities against innocent people.
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oralloy
 
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Wed 22 Jan, 2014 03:47 am
@McTag,
McTag wrote:
Gosh. Someone, no doubt well-intentioned, tried to involve Oralloy in rational discourse.

People engage with me in rational discourse all the time. Of course, none of them are evil scumbags like you.

What do you think Guede will do when his abbreviated sentence expires? Rape and kill again, or become an upstanding member of the community?
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oralloy
 
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Wed 22 Jan, 2014 03:47 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
That's what he does, that's the sort of creature he is. Complete filth.

Says the scumbag who supports sending innocent people to prison just so freaks like the Kerchers can steal their money.
izzythepush
 
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Wed 22 Jan, 2014 03:54 am
@oralloy,
Knox is not innocent she's a murdering bitch. That's what gets you so hot. You're still a virgin, still impotent, still living with mummy and daddy. Where do you think you'll end up once mummy and daddy are gone? What sort of institution will you end up in? Whichever way you look at, it your shitty life will get a lot shittier.
oralloy
 
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Wed 22 Jan, 2014 04:03 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Knox is not innocent she's a murdering bitch.

Stop lying, scumbag. The evidence has been clear from the beginning that the Kercher whore was killed by Guede and Guede alone.

Of course, it's Kercher's own fault that she was murdered, so perhaps in the end it is good that Guede got such a light sentence. Perhaps we should even be thanking him for providing a service?


izzythepush wrote:
That's what gets you so hot.

It is really revolting when you scumbag freaks falsely accuse your betters of your own sleaze.
izzythepush
 
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Wed 22 Jan, 2014 04:30 am
@oralloy,
Still got no broadband in that fly blown **** hole of yours. The engineers have probably seen The Hills Have Eyes, which is why they don't fancy laying cables in inbred city.

How long before you're in some crappy institution? The clock's ticking, Nurse Ratched is waiting, tick tock tick tock.
 http://goofybeast.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/nurse-ratched.jpg
oralloy
 
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Wed 22 Jan, 2014 04:49 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Still got no broadband in that fly blown **** hole of yours.

I know you're too stupid to do anything other than engage in freaky name-calling, but sheesh. Get a grip.

If that was an attempt at a question, no, there is still no broadband available here.

It might be possible to get "broadband lite" if I put up a 100 foot tower, but I've yet to investigate that. It may well come to that though; I miss my precious Azeroth like you wouldn't believe.

And I wager this is a nicer place than anywhere you've ever lived.

That said, your freaky ranting is getting a bit off topic. The main issue here is the fact that Kercher was a whore who got herself killed. Guede provided a service to humanity.

When Guede is released after his abbreviated sentence, if he decides to become an upstanding citizen, we should all rally to welcome him as a respected member of the community. He should be allowed to live out his life in comfort and contentment.
izzythepush
 
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Wed 22 Jan, 2014 06:00 am
@oralloy,
Tick tock tick tock tick tock.
gungasnake
 
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Wed 22 Jan, 2014 06:20 am
I don't really know enough about this one to have an opinion on it, but it doesn't sound like the idea of double-jeopardy means anything in Italy.

oralloy
 
  -1  
Wed 22 Jan, 2014 06:22 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Tick tock tick tock tick tock.

How long until Guede is out? I've heard they changed their time off for good behavior so that now he is eligible for daytime release this month.

I know "daytime release" is not quite as good as full-on parole. But still, it'll be nice to see him walking free don't you think?

I hope Guede chooses to become an upstanding member of the community. I think the chances of it are slim; more than likely he is going to murder and rape a lot more young women. But if Guede does reform, that will be so awesome.

When the Kercher scumbags fought to send Amanda and Raffaele to prison so that they could steal Raffaele's money, they never for a moment imagined that it would backfire and grant Guede a light sentence. If the Kerchers end up having to watch Guede live a happy life as a respected member of the community, that'll be too awesome for words to even describe.
Lordyaswas
 
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Wed 22 Jan, 2014 06:32 am
@oralloy,
You truly are a totally shameless turd, aren't you.

I used to think of you as simply deluded, but I have come to see a real evil streak in you, oral.

izzythepush
 
  2  
Wed 22 Jan, 2014 06:35 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
It might be possible to get "broadband lite" if I put up a 100 foot tower, but I've yet to investigate that.


You're going to need a lot more lego. Tick tock tick tock tick tock.
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oralloy
 
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Wed 22 Jan, 2014 07:03 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:
I don't really know enough about this one to have an opinion on it,

There are so many subplots in the case that it can never be described concisely. But briefly, here is a short rundown:

Kercher was whoring her way through Europe in exchange for free drugs. One of Kercher's clients introduced Guede to Kercher and Amanda. Amanda and Kercher forgot Guede almost immediately, but Guede didn't forget about them.

Later, Guede broke into their apartment. Thankfully Amanda was spending the night at her boyfriend's place. Guede cut Kercher's throat, and raped her as blood was gushing from her neck. Then he took her phones so she could not summon help, and locked her in her room (the lock required a key to unlock it from either side of the door). Kercher slowly drowned in her own blood on the floor of her room while Guede went out dancing at a nightclub.

Amanda's then-boyfriend Raffaele is fairly wealthy. His dead mother left him an inheritance worth a few million dollars. When the Kercher family found out about his wealth, they began a hard push to have everyone ignore Guede, and instead convict Amanda and Raffaele so that they can claim Raffaele's estate as civil damages.

The Kerchers' relentless focus on Amanda and Raffaele has inadvertently earned Guede a series of sentence reductions, reducing his sentence from LIFE to 30 years to 16 years. Guede is now up for "daytime release" (returning to prison every night) sometime this month. He will get full parole (assuming good behavior) in just a couple more years.

I'm sort of torn as to which outcome I'd prefer. Considering what he did to Kercher, letting him lose in a college town filled with young women sounds like just the sort of disaster that Italy deserves to have happen to them.

On the other hand, the Kercher family are pretty vile. If they have to watch Guede become a respected member of the community and live out a happy life, that will be the ultimate in poetic justice. At the moment I prefer this option.

But considering his crime, I expect that Guede is going to be a repeat offender.


gungasnake wrote:
but it doesn't sound like the idea of double-jeopardy means anything in Italy.

Italy has no regard for anything resembling justice or science.

However, the double jeopardy issue is a bit complex. All these trials actually count as one big trial.
wandeljw
 
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Wed 22 Jan, 2014 07:07 am
@oralloy,
Cruel words about Kercher is far worse than cruel words about Knox. There is no need to go insane about Amanda and Rafaelle. They both have excellent attorneys.
 

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