Amanda Knox

@djjd62,

djjd62 wrote:

you're such a ******* loon, it's hard to tell what you really support

Stop lying. I am very clear on what I support.

djjd62 wrote:

somewhere along the line you got the feeling i support wrongful imprisonment

not true

Yes it is. Your callousness in this matter is horrific.

You are a monster and you should be dragged to Guantanamo and tortured.

djjd62 wrote:

it's your insane response to it that i find reprehensible

My response is that of anyone who supports justice.

You are just such a immoral sleazebag that you think it would be reprehensible to ever do the right thing.

djjd62 wrote:

the sad fact is, i hear more folks like you, and OSD and Gunga and H2O popping up in my country more and more, and it really depresses me

i speak from a completely partisan point of view, i support no party, in fact i've voted for every party available

You speak from the point of view of evil. Your political leanings are irrelevant.

djjd62 wrote:

the jingoistic, knuckle dragging crap you spew is sickening

Evil always finds it distressing when good confronts it.

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Hard to believe Amanda and Raffaele are finally going to be free in about 24 hours.

If anyone is interested in monitoring tweets about them:

http://www.twittbox.com/tb/%23amanda/%23amandaknox/amanda%20knox

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@oralloy,

Why did Ms Knox lie to the police after the murder? Presumably she knows more than she's saying, which makes her an accessory.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

Why did Ms Knox lie to the police after the murder? Presumably she knows more than she's saying, which makes her an accessory.

The police spoke to her without her having a lawyer. They also spoke to her without a translator. Amanda Knox had taken basic Italian courses, and her Italian was limited to school-taught Italian. At that point she had only been living in Italy for a few weeks and did not understand idiomatic Italian. The police played a game of "what if" with her. The police at that point suspected Lumumba, not Guede (on the basis of having found a "negroid" hair at the crime scene. The police interrogator told Knox that they already knew Lumumba was involved. A police woman kept slapping Knox on the back of the head if she gave an answer that they didn't like.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

Why did Ms Knox lie to the police after the murder?

She didn't.

Why do you lie about Amanda?

(That's a rhetorical question. You lie about Amanda because you're an evil scumbag.)

McTag wrote:

Presumably she knows more than she's saying, which makes her an accessory.

You never stop, do you?

I was tempted to give you an anti-McCarthy-style "have you no shame, at long last?" But it is more than evident that you in fact don't have any shame, at long last.

I'm going to laugh at you when you're in Hell. It's going to be really funny.

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@wandeljw,

wandeljw wrote:

The police interrogator told Knox that they already knew Lumumba was involved. A police woman kept slapping Knox on the back of the head if she gave an answer that they didn't like.

Good effort. Unfortunately, vermin like McTag and ossobuco think that innocent people should be punished for allowing the police to beat false statements out of them.

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Do I detect an element of partiality or bias here?

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@wandeljw,

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The police spoke to her without her having a lawyer. They also spoke to her without a translator

Surely it was the duty of the American Consul to get her a suitable lawyer and translator, a.s.a.p.
Then it was the duty of the lawyer to have previous interviews stricken out, amended, or revised.
How could that be admitted as evidence?
All the same, just because she has a sweet face and Oralloy habitually refers to her by her first name, it doesn't make her innocent.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

Quote:
The police spoke to her without her having a lawyer. They also spoke to her without a translator

Surely it was the duty of the American Consul to get her a suitable lawyer and translator, a.s.a.p.
Then it was the duty of the lawyer to have previous interviews stricken out, amended, or revised.
How could that be admitted as evidence?
All the same, just because she has a sweet face and Oralloy habitually refers to her by her first name, it doesn't make her innocent.

She was 21, had lived in Italy for only a few weeks. The police questioned her as a witness. She notified her mother. Her mother was flying into Italy. The Perugia police hurriedly interrogated her in an all night session before her mother's plane was due to land. Lumumba was Amanda's boss. They had intercepted a text message from Amanda to her boss about missing work but seeing him later. The police suspected Lumumba because a negroid hair was found. The police tried to get Amanda to implicate both herself and Lumumba. The police were wrong about Lumumba. The negroid hair belonged to someone else and Lumumba also had a clear alibi that he was elsewhere when the murder had been committed.

In fairness to the police, they had little experience with murder in the quiet town of Perugia. The police were also under pressure from international media exposure about the murder. Meredith Kercher's father is a British journalist and the sensationalism of the crime attracted journalists from all over.

American Consulates generally do not interfere with local police.

I do not like the way oralloy passes judgement on people who suspect Amanda is guilty.

When the case was first reported in the United States, I also assumed that Amanda and Raffaelle were guilty. Then, certain details caused me to suspect they were innocent. Amanda and Raffaelle had only known each other for two weeks (too soon for them to be engaging in kinky sex). The prosecutor's theory was that they were performing some kind of satanic ritual. Crime theories based on satanic rituals had long been discredited in the United States. I was surprised that this was still used as a theory in Europe.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

Do I detect an element of partiality or bias here?

Nope. You detect the revulsion that all good people experience when you vomit your evilness onto the internet.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

Then it was the duty of the lawyer to have previous interviews stricken out, amended, or revised.
How could that be admitted as evidence?

We're talking about a third-world country like Italy here, not someplace civilized.

There is little a lawyer can do when corrupt Italian judges strive to convict innocent people.

It is disgusting for you to blame the defense lawyers for the atrocity that you support. Sad to say that at this point, it is no longer surprising when you do things like that.

McTag wrote:

All the same, just because she has a sweet face and Oralloy habitually refers to her by her first name, it doesn't make her innocent.

Stop lying already. The evidence has been clear from the beginning that Amanda and Raffaele are innocent.

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@wandeljw,

wandeljw wrote:

She was 21, had lived in Italy for only a few weeks. The police questioned her as a witness.

They are lying when they say that. While there was never any reason to suspect either Amanda or Raffaele, the police were questioning them both as suspects.

Their lie about questioning them as witnesses is part of their attempt to hide their recording of the interrogation.

wandeljw wrote:

I do not like the way oralloy passes judgement on people who suspect Amanda is guilty.

You are one of the good guys, but you're a little naive about the vermin.

I've posted evidence over and over on page after page of this thread. The only thing the vermin have ever done is use dishonest tactics to avoid confronting the evidence while they continued to lie about Amanda and Raffaele.

The vermin are not "misguided good people". These people are evil.

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@wandeljw,

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American Consulates generally do not interfere with local police.

That may well be so, but it is the duty of consulates to look after the interests of their nationals abroad.
They would quickly have learnt that an American student was arrested accused of murder, and should have sent an official immediately to interview her.
Then the lawyer and the translator should have been supplied.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

Quote:
American Consulates generally do not interfere with local police.

That may well be so, but it is the duty of consulates to look after the interests of their nationals abroad.
They would quickly have learnt that an American student was arrested accused of murder, and should have sent an official immediately to interview her.
Then the lawyer and the translator should have been supplied.

An American newspaper asked the consulate how they responded. The consulate released their official memo:
http://extras.seattlepi.com/pdf/amandaknox_cable.pdf

Amanda's mother and father arrived at the same time and hired an attorney for her. Before the arrest, no attorney was involved.

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@oralloy,

McTag wrote:

Do I detect an element of partiality or bias here?

oralloy wrote:

Nope. You detect the revulsion that all good people experience when you vomit your evilness onto the internet.

oralloy wrote:

I propose that every day Amanda spent in prison result in the massacre of 50 Italian children between the ages of 2 and 5.

<snip>

Plus, the slaughter would give the US Air Force some good practice.

why Oralloy, why would you say such a thing?

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@Izzie,

Izzie wrote:

why Oralloy, why would you say such a thing?

Because Italy is an evil country that deserves exactly what I recommended, and because I am a good person who is extremely angry at Italy.

You probably don't want to know what I think of the Kerchers. I'll probably withhold comment on them because speaking my mind would not be compatible with my respect for A2K. (We'll have to see if my temper holds through their press conference though. I'm sure it will be vile.)

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@oralloy,

Who cares what you or anyone thinks of the Kerchers? Italy's justice system, as are all nation's justice systems, is/are flawed - their's is more flawed than most. But, forget all that tabloid journalism. All that matters here is that justice is served. Last time that I checked that unfortunate girl is still dead.

Justice is what matters here...not axe-grinding and/or senationalistic inflammatory remarks.

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@oralloy,

I get that you believe what you believe about Italy and the system there and all that - you're entitled to your opinions, as is everyone

but why use that anger in wishing for the murder of innocent children and using your country to do this - do you not see how wrong that is, how irrational that line of thinking is (in my opinion)

I don't believe good people would wish for innocent childrens lives to be taken on your recommendations

Seriously - why not try and use your anger for a positive solution and remove the hatred towards all and anyone associated with Italy and for using them as target practice.

Would you automatically 'hate' and 'wish me dead' if I were to visit Italy? Would I not be the same person as you spoke to just now - yet if you knew I would enjoy visiting Italy that would make me a really bad person and I should deserve to be dead and you could pull the trigger?

I'd be exactly the same person as before, except I like Italy.

I don't like many systems or governments any better than you do - but I wouldn't wish death on the kids of countries because of my opinions

Your comments to folk here are so personal Oralloy... filled with hatred towards individuals here

I know you're angry - but Italian children did nothing there, and folk have not done harm here either - they are as innocent as you believe Amanda Knox to be - yet you wish them dead - equating killing them as vengeance for Amanda Knox ... it's just so wrong.

I can't understand it...

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@Ragman,

Ragman wrote:

But, forget all that tabloid journalism. All that matters here is that justice is served.

Too bad. The Kerchers forfeited their right to justice when they helped prevent innocent people from getting a fair trial.

And, I'm pleased to say, Karma agrees with me.

The person who cut Meredith's throat, then raped her as she was struggling to breathe, then took her phones and locked her in her room so she could not summon aid, and went out dancing in a nightclub as she slowly drowned in her own blood, has received a couple of massive sentence reductions as a result of this witch hunt against the innocent.

First, his sentence was cut from LIFE to 30 years when Micheli declined to blame him for taking Meridith's money.

Second, the conviction of Amanda and Raffaele with mitigating circumstances led to him being granted those same mitigating circumstances even though he did not deserve them, which dropped his sentence from 30 years to 16 years.

Now he is eligible for day-release parole in just 4 more years, and full release in just 8 more years.

And not only that, when Amanda and Raffaele are freed in a few hours, Guede will launch a new appeal, based on the claim that the Italian Police faked the evidence against him as well.

Ragman wrote:

Last time that I checked that unfortunate girl is still dead.

Meh. Oh well.

Ragman wrote:

Justice is what matters here...

Well, I'll tell you what. Wait until Guede is free (as I outlined above) and I present him with the gift of the most vicious bowie knife I can find.

When Guede chops up more female college students in Perugia, that'll be justice in it's purest form.

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@Izzie,

Izzie wrote:

Would you automatically 'hate' and 'wish me dead' if I were to visit Italy?

No.

Izzie wrote:

Your comments to folk here are so personal Oralloy... filled with hatred towards individuals here

And rightly so. There are some extremely evil and cruel people posting in this thread. How could I not hate them?

Izzie wrote:

they are as innocent as you believe Amanda Knox to be

Believe?

I know for a fact that Amanda and Raffaele are innocent, that Italy framed them, and that Italy knew they were innocent when they framed them.

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