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"Fox News often operates almost as either the research arm or the communications arm of the GOP"

 
 
Reply Mon 12 Oct, 2009 02:22 am
This was a statement issued by the interm White House Communications Director, Anita Dunn.

"If we went back a year ago to the fall of 2008, to the campaign, that was a time this country was in two wars that we had a financial collapse probably more significant than any financial collapse since the Great Depression. If you were a Fox News viewer in the fall election what you would have seen were that the biggest stories and the biggest threats facing America were a guy named Bill Ayers and a something called ACORN."

"The reality of it is that Fox News often operates almost as either the research arm or the communications arm of the Republican Party. And it is not ideological... what I think is fair to say about Fox, and the way we view it, is that it is more of a wing of the Republican Party."

"Obviously [the President] will go on Fox because he engages with ideological opponents. He has done that before and he will do it again... when he goes on Fox he understands he is not going on it as a news network at this point. He is going on it to debate the opposition."

"[Fox is] widely viewed as a part of the Republican Party: take their talking points and put them on the air, take their opposition research and put it on the air. And that's fine. But let's not pretend they're a news organization like CNN is."

Frankly, as a regular Fox News viewers (my cable provider doesn't anyone besides Fox News as part of the basic cable package and I'm a news junkie without much money), I find this statement to be extremely accurate.

And frankly, I'm surprised that no one else seems to have the courage to call them in on it. Both the Tea Parties and the 9/12 protests were essentially organized and promoted on an almost hourly basis for over a month straight by the Fox "News" network. I have yet to see them spend a tiny fraction of that effort to reporting on antiwar protests.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 12 Oct, 2009 03:12 am

Its not that Fox is more REPUBLICAN minded;
its that it is more representative of the original values
upon which this Republic was established -- not as politically correct.





David
Diest TKO
 
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Reply Mon 12 Oct, 2009 04:28 am
Daivd - The PC meme is totally spent. I just can't take it serious anymore. The whole flaw with PC term management was supposed to be a good way to create agreeable terms to be used in politically engaged speech. The 90's Dems really warped that idea into it being about not hurting feelings or trying to look good (as in righteous not attractive). You don't hear arguments from liberals about what is and isn't PC anymore, and quite interestingly some of the most liberal comedians in the US intentionally use extremely un-PC speech intentionally for effect (and to make a point).

However, if you were to look at the right wing, and posters here on A2K. You have Foxfyre and ican711nm creating and demanding the compliance to their political terminology which is in no way agreed upon.

E.g. - WREDA (ican's super attack acronym on liberals)

The GOP has become the party of PC, but for the purposes of trying to dictate that discussions on politics be done so on their terms. Words like:

socialism
constitutional
distribution
censorship

are removed from a common understanding and politically adjusted to suit their platform. Fox news has been the GOP's main outlet for spreading their memes and pushing what they think is PC.

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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 12 Oct, 2009 05:04 am
@Centroles,
I'd say it's the policy formation arm in many ways.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 12 Oct, 2009 06:22 am
@Centroles,
Its also a very goodPR wing of the GOP (anyone who denies the fact is not listening carefully) Several of the recent slogans that have swept the GOP (mostly in order to sever its ties as a major causitive force in our present state), and these slogans are those that imply a sense of going forward (with a total disregard for the link of causation and recovery)
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 12 Oct, 2009 07:06 am
@Diest TKO,
Diest TKO wrote:

Daivd - The PC meme is totally spent. I just can't take it serious anymore. The whole flaw with PC term management was supposed to be a good way to create agreeable terms to be used in politically engaged speech. The 90's Dems really warped that idea into it being about not hurting feelings or trying to look good (as in righteous not attractive). You don't hear arguments from liberals about what is and isn't PC anymore, and quite interestingly some of the most liberal comedians in the US intentionally use extremely un-PC speech intentionally for effect (and to make a point).

However, if you were to look at the right wing, and posters here on A2K. You have Foxfyre and ican711nm creating and demanding the compliance to their political terminology which is in no way agreed upon.

E.g. - WREDA (ican's super attack acronym on liberals)

The GOP has become the party of PC, but for the purposes of trying to dictate that discussions on politics be done so on their terms. Words like:

socialism
constitutional
distribution
censorship

are removed from a common understanding and politically adjusted to suit their platform. Fox news has been the GOP's main outlet for spreading their memes and pushing what they think is PC.

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K
O
U have some interesting thawts there, Diest.
Lemme think about those for a while.

"WREDA"
What do those letters stand for ?





David
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Mon 12 Oct, 2009 08:16 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:


Its not that Fox is more REPUBLICAN minded;
its that it is more representative of the original values
upon which this Republic was established -- not as politically correct.





David


No.
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Mon 12 Oct, 2009 08:32 am
I just reread my post. Sorry for all the typos and redundant statements. I have been awake all night.

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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 12 Oct, 2009 08:37 am
@Diest TKO,
Diest TKO wrote:

I just reread my post. Sorry for all the typos and redundant statements. I have been awake all night.

T
K
O
That 's OK. It happens to the best of us.

"WREDA"
What do those letters stand for ?





David
Diest TKO
 
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Reply Mon 12 Oct, 2009 01:27 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
ask ican. It's some huge acronym, I can't be bothered to remember.

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engineer
 
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Reply Mon 12 Oct, 2009 01:34 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

"WREDA"
What do those letters stand for ?

You have to read them in context: http://able2know.org/topic/113196-851#post-3772808
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 12 Oct, 2009 01:47 pm
@engineer,

I see; thank u, Engineer.





David
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2009 04:20 am
Ican has always gotten pleasure at generating Acronyms. HE is a GOPAG (a GOP Acronym Generatist)
DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2009 06:56 am
The part that cracks me up is that Fox's tagline is "fair and balanced".

Riiiiiight.
parados
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2009 07:07 am
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:

The part that cracks me up is that Fox's tagline is "fair and balanced".

Riiiiiight.

Fair - Well, everyone on Fox does seem to be light skinned so that is probably correct.

Balanced - I've never seen any of their newscasters fall over so they do seem to have balance.

"White and not falling down Drunk" would be a synonym, don't you think?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2009 07:14 am
@Centroles,
Quote:
But let's not pretend they're a news organization like CNN is.


This is a joke right? Are people really not able to tell the difference between news and opinion any more? Fox news makes good use of commentary from editorialists who give their opinions on the news. Yep, they are right winged, but the news is the news. The tea parties were news, the 9/12 protests were news.

CNN spent some time recently "debunking" a Saturday Night Live skit... is that news or just an arm of the Democratic party? CNN is left leaning and way behind Fox news rating wise.

This seems like nothing more then sour grapes to me.
engineer
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2009 07:24 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

Quote:
But let's not pretend they're a news organization like CNN is.

...
CNN spent some time recently "debunking" a Saturday Night Live skit... is that news or just an arm of the Democratic party?

Jon Stewart slams CNN for fact checking comedy shows instead of their own guests.
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2009 07:27 am
@McGentrix,
Are you confusing the ratings of Fox's opinion shows with the news McG?

Fox's highest rated shows are NOT news shows. They are opinion shows that distort the news.
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revel
 
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Reply Wed 14 Oct, 2009 07:54 am
Oh please, Fox news was just reporting news when it promoted and directed viewers where to get more information and encouraged them to form one "near you" Teaparties? Nobody with any sense buys into that anymore than they buy into Fox news being "fair and balanced, we report you decide" hogwash.

REPORT: "Fair and balanced" Fox News aggressively promotes "tea party" protests


Fox's news programs echo its "opinion" shows: Smears, doctored videos, GOP talking points
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kickycan
 
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Reply Wed 21 Oct, 2009 04:27 pm
I don't understand how anyone can defend Fox News.

All the White House is saying is that they aren't a NEWS organization. If they just stopped touting themselves as a news provider, there would be no problem. But of course, since they are the lowest of the low, and their leaders are the scumbaggiest of the scumbags, they won't.

Maybe they will actually try to be a little more fair and balanced now that they have been outed as a bunch of smear-mongering douche bags (finally!) by someone who people will listen to. Yeah, fat chance.

http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/10/21/obamas-fox-news-offensive-has-it-worked/

"critics of Fox News claim at least one victory. After teasing coverage of Oct. 17 Tea Party protests, Fox didn’t cover the events on TV, instead relegating coverage to its website. For a network that had expansive coverage of the Tea Party Express leading up to the 9/12 protests in Washington and had commentator Sean Hannity headline a Tea Party in Atlanta this summer, that “says something,” says Jess Levin, a spokeswoman for Media Matters for America, a liberal media watchdog group."
 

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