Myth of "Separation of Church and State"

You have no basis upon which to state that the objection to religion in government is a minority opinion, therefore your statement is a lie.

You are just as extremist, and just as dangerous as the "fanatical Islamist and the extreme leftist Liberal."

Therefore, you have once again lied.

If that were true, how would you account for the amount of time and energy you have put into trying to make your case here? You want very much to convert others to your crackpot religious beliefs. Therefore, you have once again lied.

Oh, is that so? And how are we to determine who the "true Christians" are? By asking you? By comparing the beliefs in Christianity they hold to yours?

EBrown_p has very thoroughly demonstrated that your message is not necessarily consonant with the Christian views of everyone. Are we to believe then that EBrown_p is not a true Christian, but that you are?

You're the hateful one here, you're trying to shove your beliefs down the throats of others,

and given the chance, you would enshrine them in law. You are the dangerous ones, and you threaten our ancient liberties far more than any muslim terrorists, because you live here.

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It is not up to our government to provide a substantial income for those who are too lazy or uneducated to live on at the expense of those who work everyday to provide for their families with less than what the welfare recipients get!

Ahhh, but if we were a Christian nation, then it would be up to the government to provide substantially for the poor and act in many other ways that it doesn't. And no Christian would be so judgemental, either. (Judge not, lest ye be judged.)

You can't have it both ways.

We're losing our morality, whether you want to admit it or not. It has nothing to do with any extremism...just a peaceful, moral country.

In the Bible Jesus taught love, forgiveness and compassion. He spent his life with the poor and oppressed. He ate with sinners and Samaritans. His only political act was to stop the capital punishment of a prostitute.

Jesus did not worry that immigration laws weren't being enforced. Jesus did not rail against "the welfare state". Jesus did not worry if people prayed before gladitorial combat, or if the name of God was in the forum. Jesus wasn't concerned about what was in science books or history books. Jesus wanted people to "love your neighbor as yourself".

I looked at that silly website you are promoting. The fact it takes a page explaining why they are *not* like the KKK should tell you something.

But the very idea behind the Southern Heritage movement is silly. You really think that God who calls us to love and care for all people is concerned that we shut out immigrants to protect American jobs?

The Jesus who calls us to "give to everyone who has needs" and "put the needs of others above your own" is concerned that southerngrl's taxes might be used to help someone who is lazy?

Southerngrl, I don't think that God - the Ruler and Creator of the Universe- would care if a plaque of 10 commandments is in a courtroom in a small state in 2003.

I do think that the God of all Love cares that people are treated with decency and respect regardless of where they are born, the color of their skin or the amount of money they have.

To paraphrase Mr. Reagan:

"Southerngrl - TAKE DOWN THAT AVATAR!"

Putting the name of Jesus on a symbol of backwards hate is far worse than not allowing it in schools.

Southerngrl,

Also just to clarify things - the term "integration" means that Black people and White people (and other races) are together.

I don't know that I've ever heard any historian or teacher ever assert that slavery was the "sole reason" or the "only reason" -- or the war -- or for why the South fought.

It certainly was a reason -- and history (the unrevised kind) indicates it was one of the important reasons.

Anyone who starts an essay with stupid, dishonest statements like this shouldn't be taken seriously.

But considering the rationalizations I hear coming from you, SG, I can understand why you would recommend it.

BOTTOM LINE: If this country and its instituions are in danger -- they are in much greater danger from the conservative likes of you -- than from the terrorists of the world.

Jesus did worry about those that didn't take up their cross and follow Him.

If Jesus were here today, He would be VERY interested in the lack of morality and the truth in every sense.

Its frustrating that people close their minds to things that they don't want to hear.

Every single Confederate supporter I have ever met personally believes in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. They are very Christian and do a lot for their communities.

Once he researched the truth, he became an advocate. There are many other blacks who are joining up, as well. But, they had to open their minds and have the proof in front of them to make up their minds. Something a lot of people just don't do. It's called educating yourself. That's what I have done. Not just sit back and insult and spew off retoric that has no basis of truth.

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Southerngrl, I don't think that God - the Ruler and Creator of the Universe- would care if a plaque of 10 commandments is in a courtroom in a small state in 2003.

Don't think for one minute He didn't weep.

Myth. That is what you have heard...but the truth lies in the research and proof.

"You'd have to pry it out of my cold dead hands!"

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Putting the name of Jesus on a symbol of backwards hate is far worse than not allowing it in schools.

Again, educate yourself before spouting out untruths.

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I don't know that I've ever heard any historian or teacher ever assert that slavery was the "sole reason" or the "only reason" -- or the war -- or for why the South fought.

Really? You are one of the few then.

I was greatly amused by "war of northern aggression." So, are we to assume that the garrison of Fort Sumter went around bashing their brick walls against the cannon balls the South Carolinians had stolen from the Federal armory until those walls crumbled? So those cannon balls were just sitting there, innocently, in mid air, when they were ruthlessly assaulted by Fort Sumter's walls, in an act of unprovoked aggression?

Stop, yer killin' me . . .

southerngrl- I knew it.......I knew it. Days ago I said to myself, "That woman has fallen for Clear Channel, hook, line and sinker.

It so happens that I listen to Rush in my car (when he isn't in rehab.) and agree with some of the things that he says. The thing is, I know how to extract valuable concepts from the hype and bullshit!

Why is it a negative that I happen to believe the same as Rush and support him?

Your attempt to foist your "moral" agenda off on others is very "Un-American" and very dangerous. Your worse than the muslim terrorists,

and in contradiction of the historical record, that the majority of Americans favor religion in government and always have.

Lee never owned a slave in his life.

Thomas Jackson owned three household slaves. One accompanied him on his campaigns.

You are no different to my mind than any member of Al-Qaida.

This has nothing to do with you simply having offered an opinion. It has to do with your distortions of history,

it has to do with your contentions that those with liberal views are dangerous to the nation.

I certainly hope that the constitution and the courts continue to protect us all from hateful people like you.

The south could never have won the civil war. They lost as quickly as they did because they too inhabited the "with god on our side" fantasy world that you have painted here.

Well, ask other conservatives around here what they think of Rush. Most of them will say that he is an entertainer who plays to the lowest common denominator.