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Sarah Palin, too weird.

 
 
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2009 02:24 pm


It appears DL is jealous, so jealous that she is compelled to lash out
irrationally against Palin thus making an ignorant spectacle of herself.
Debra Law
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2009 03:01 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:


It appears DL is jealous, so jealous that she is compelled to lash out
irrationally against Palin thus making an ignorant spectacle of herself.


Really? You apparently hold yourself out as an expert on ignorance.

Please demonstrate the brilliant workings of your brain and explain to us how Peter Ferrara, Fox News, is making an ignorant spectacle of himself when he says the following:

"She [Sarah Palin] should also lead the nation's mothers to oppose mandating replacement of incandescent light bulbs with the new mercury poison gas bulbs."

How long will it take you to figure it out? I'm waiting breathlessly for your analysis . . . .


JTT
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2009 04:28 pm
@Debra Law,
Quote:
We can't trust her to mentally process what her advisors (good or bad) are telling her. She has a very limited intellectual capacity to soak up information, process it, and regurgitate it at the proper time. The McCain team attempted to prepare Palin for interviews, but this educational endeavor short-circuited her unexercised br


She was there to provide camouflage for McCain as he was almost as bad in what Debra has described above. But you say, that's a recipe for disaster; true, it was, but they probably figured,

"Hey, we blew GWB by the American people, twice, why not two idiots once?"
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2009 05:08 pm
vote for Stick At Naught Palin in 2012. please...
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2009 06:58 pm
@Debra Law,
I'm no fan of Palin, but Ferrara may not be all wrong on that as a useful issue for some polititian - though I think a politician won't be necessary. There's a new generation of incandescent bulbs that are getting well within the range of possibility of challenging the role of the CFL bulbs without the mercury problem. Right now they're expensive and not there yet re energy efficiency, but according to a recent NYTimes article, this is a real possibility.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/06/business/energy-environment/06bulbs.html?scp=1&sq=incandescent%20light%20bulbs&st=cse
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2009 05:59 am
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/07/palin-polarizer.html
Quote:
Using numbers from a post-election poll, Jones and Cox conclude that Palin damaged McCain's brand because her style evoked the kind of polarizing politics that Americans had grown sick of--and to which, not coincidentally, Barack Obama offered himself as an antidote.
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engineer
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2009 08:30 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

If Sarah were elevated to the Presidency, she 'd surround herself with pro-freedom advisors
to handle the complexities, the important thing being that we were going in the right direction,
not pulled into Marxist despotism.

engineer wrote:
Quote:
But I haven't seen even that much managerial ability.

What do u expect to SEE ?
She has been the chief executive officer of Alaska for several years now
and nothing shockingly untoward has happened. U see a problem ?

Alaska's governor is under investigation, has been found to have abused her power in troopergate, has gone from an extreme budget surplus to having to make cuts even though the price of crude is going up. Yes, I see problems.
Quote:

engineer wrote:[/b]
Quote:

I think the more likely senario would be that Palin would find herself surrounded by advisors
who would run the country by proxy.

That has been true of all Presidents.
None of them has been an expert on EVERYTHING.

That is what his cabinet is for; he additionally has more advisors.

Presidents have advisors and they make the big calls. I don't Palin has the background or curiosity to fill that role. She had the benefit of the doubt on day one, but she's failed to demonstrate any capability
Quote:

engineer wrote:
Quote:

I'll take a President who can present a clear vision of his desired
future over one who can spit out only soundbites.

Hitler was very, very clear (and loud) of his desired future.
(and plenty of manual gestures)

I am sure that u do not mean that u will take him over Sarah
nor over anyone who "can spit out only soundbites".

A lot depends on what that vision IS.

Sure, but I didn't say I would take ANY person with vision, I just won't take a person without one.
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engineer
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2009 08:37 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

We disagree as to the facts, qua incoherence.

In any case, shoud we choose our leaders upon the basis of their powers of articulation ?

Is the champion of the debating society rightfully entitled to political office ?

Being articulate is a minimum requirement for President. They don't have to be best in class, but they certainly need to be able to convey a clear message. Palin does not meet that minimum test.

OmSigDAVID wrote:

SUBSTANCE counts, not just the procedure of getting elected.

I agree and Palin has shown repeatedly that she does not have substance. Watch her resignation speech; read her interviews; there is no substance there.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2009 08:44 am
Among many other things, Palin was criticized while serving as mayor and governor for appointing incompetent cronies to important positions. Thus, should she become president, do not expect her advisors/friends to keep her on the correct path.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2009 08:53 am
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:

Among many other things, Palin was criticized while serving as mayor and governor
for appointing incompetent cronies to important positions.
Thus, should she become president, do not expect her
advisors/friends to keep her on the correct path.

and the reason for that is that she WAS CRITICIZED



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JTT
 
  1  
Reply Mon 13 Jul, 2009 02:03 pm
Thanks ever so much, Sarah, but, hmmmm, no thanks.

Quote:
Palin Says She May Stump for Democrats Republican Governor Says She's Not Leaving Politics
AP
(July 12) " Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said she's not only staying involved in national politics, but she plans to jump back into the national scrum when she leaves office at the end of the month.
The former Republican vice presidential nominee said she plans to write a book, campaign for political candidates from coast to coast " even Democrats who share her views on limited government, national defense and energy independence " and build a right-of-center coalition.
"I will go around the country on behalf of candidates who believe in the right things, regardless of their party label or affiliation," she said during an interview published Sunday in The Washington Times.

http://news.aol.com/article/sarah-palin-stump-for-democrats/567777?icid=main|main|dl1|link5|http%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.com%2Farticle%2Fsarah-palin-stump-for-democrats%2F567777
Advocate
 
  1  
Reply Mon 13 Jul, 2009 02:39 pm
@JTT,
I guess that means she is willing to stump for Lieberman, Nelson, and Baucus.
JTT
 
  1  
Reply Mon 13 Jul, 2009 09:00 pm
@Advocate,
They'd likely pass on the offer, too, Advocate.
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2009 08:13 am
As some of you will know, Palin just published an op ed in the Washington Post. She's educating the rest of us on Cap and Trade and general energy matters. Quite a "get" for that stellar newspaper, you'll have to admit, and quite an opportunity for the rest of us to get up to speed on these issues/policies. Next week, I am hoping that Fred Hiatt will pull in Joe the Plumber for explication of the present state of nuclear plant safety protocols.
Advocate
 
  2  
Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2009 08:48 am
@blatham,
You should be more careful. It is "Joe the Nonplumber."
panzade
 
  2  
Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2009 02:57 pm
@Advocate,
Yeah, I didn't know this:
Quote:
Media research showed he was not a licensed plumber and he owed taxes which were later paid. In May 2009, Time magazine reported that Wurzelbacher was quitting the Republican Party, saying that he was outraged by the party's overspending.
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wandeljw
 
  2  
Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2009 03:44 pm
I like Jon Stewart's comment after he heard Palin resigned as governor: "No! She was our last line of defense against Russia!"
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2009 04:07 pm
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:

You should be more careful. It is "Joe the Nonplumber."


Perhaps it is "Joe, i.e. Samuel Wurzelbacher, the former plumber's unlicensed helper, the former pseudo-advisor to a candidate for president, the former country-singer wannabe, the former war correspondent and news reporter wannabe, and the presently personal appearer for money at corporate functions and other special events (perhaps even tea parties)."
Advocate
 
  1  
Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2009 05:17 pm
@Debra Law,
I guess Joe is following in the footsteps of Jeff Gannon, ace Republican White House Reporter and male homosexual escort.

I was a bit shocked to see Pat Buchanon say on MSNBC that Palin would easily win the Republican nomination for president should she seek it. I wonder whether the Reps on this thread agree with this assessment, and whether they would vote for her in the primary.
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2009 05:49 pm
@Advocate,
Quote:
I was a bit shocked to see Pat Buchanon say on MSNBC that Palin would easily win the Republican nomination for president should she seek it.


Clearly there are enough people to make that happen. Very recent history tells us that. The Mirror could just recycle their old front page, "How can __ million people be so dumb?", theoretically, four times.
 

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