Who Killed JFK?

All three shots came from Oswald's corner window on the sixth floor. We know this to be absolutely true because three men were looking out the windows directly under it on the fifth floor. The sixth floor was being rehabbed and the flooring had been removed so that there were cracks between the remaining floorboards. The three men could hear the three shots above them, could hear the rifle bolt being drawn back, and could hear the shells rolling on the floor above.

The great majority of the two hundred some witnesses in Dealey Plaza heard three shots, although one numbskull says he heard 15.

A radio broadcaster had placed a tape recorder on top of the structure directly across from the Depository, to capture background sound for a report about the visit. When he retrieved it and listened to it, he heard three shots. Unfortunately, the tech guys at the station inadvertently bulk erased it.

The recordings of police radio traffic also confirms there were three shots.

Tantor

Your interpretation of the direction of the shots is wrong. All three were fired from the rear of the car.

For an excellent visual explanation of the physics of the shots, go to your video store and rent the Nova program about the JFK assassination.

While JFK's head appears to move backwards, what you don't see clearly until you inspect the video closely is that his brains were literally blasted out of his head and form a dim red mist. The greater mass of his head is actually thrown forward in tiny bits of brain by the bullet, which fragmented into nearly 80 pieces, transferring all of its energy to Kennedy. The lesser mass of his skull is thrown backwards. In the Nova program, they fill human skulls with brain equivalent and shoot them. The skulls move toward the rifle.

Tantor

False. People associated with the JFK assassination died at the normal rate of the general population and in ordinary ways. Gerald Posner in "Case Closed" lists the people who the conspiracy loonies claim died from unnatural causes and identifies their causes of death. There's simply nothing out of the ordinary here.

Tantor

Oswald shot JFK, alone.

Even before you examine the various scenarios, Occam's Razor tells you that the simplest explanation is the likeliest. Oswald as the lone gunman is much more likely than all the tangled, complex conspiracy theories, which always unravel like a cheap suit when you tug on their threads.

However, let's assume it was a conspiracy. There are a lot of conspiracy theories that sound plausible at casual examination. The simple-minded would say that so many conspiracy theories lead one to believe that one of them must be true. Yet, only one can be true. That infers that all but one are false. Even accepting a conspiracy, you must admit that almost all conspiracy theorists are liars who have concocted their "evidence" or fools who have mangled the facts out of stupidity and ignorance. Once you accept that all but one conspiracy theory is hoakum, it is a small step to realize that it is one more than that.

The facts lead back to Oswald. The bullets that struck Kennedy and Connally were proven metallurgically to have passed through the barrel of Oswald's rifle and match the unfired bullets he left behind. An eyewitness identified Oswald as the shooter of the third and fatal shot. His palm print is on the rifle. The rifle was purchased by him, sent to his mailbox, and identified by his wife as his. That same rifle was ballistically matched to an earlier murder attempt on a local retired general. Oswald fled the scene of the JFK murder and murdered a policeman who stopped him. That is powerful indication of guilt. He was undeniably running, trying to escape. He tried to fight with the policement who caught him in the movie theater, attempting to shoot another. Very guilty behavior.

Oswald did it. I met Jim Leavelle, the Dallas homicide detective who was handcuffed to Oswald when Ruby shot him. He said it was an easy crime to solve. He said they didn't consider it much different than the typical Saturday night shooting in Dallas except that there was a famous person involved.

And all those conspiracy theories are pure BS.

Tantor

It is difficult to say. That is my opinion. Maybe it was the CIA or Oswald . . .

I don't vouch for the accuracy or veracity of this, but it's interesting.

http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/index1.htm

Is anyone still here? I am on the side of conspiracy. Has anyone mentioned that the autopsy of JFK, as well as anycopies of the autopsy were lost. I repeat that the autopsy of the assassinated president of the United States was lost. There aren't any copies and the doctor who performed the autopsy is gone as well. Hmmmmmmm

Hi Maya - sure would love to see this thread fired up - what's your take on conspiracy?????

Sglass

There are some who say it is possible to take the rifle Oswald used and fire three times within the timeframe of the three shots fired. I know people who know guns well and they say yeah, you could do it, but try to aim, fire, reload three times at a moving target with that adrenaline rush in that time frame. No way.

My beliefs recently has been running toward a little )to my knowledge) research individual - Nixon. The reason I came to this link is because I believe he is materially complacent in the RFK assasination. Just thickens the plot......

Maya -- yeah, you can probably get off three shots from a bolt-action Manlicher-Carcano in the time allotted. Just barely. But you're not very likely to hit anything. For a serious marksman, speed is not of the essence; accuracy is.

Merry- My point(and theirs exactly). The single gunman will not fly. I don't think it was the Mafia and Giancana either, although they may have had an inkling it was going down. In the way of the world as it was then, I don't believe that they wouldn't have done it in front of Jackie. I think it was an inside job, a case of the chickens coming home to roost.

Whew, what a read so far.....

No one seems to have mentioned the co-workers of Oswald saying he was in the 2d floor lunch room eating a sandwich at the time of the shooting.

Or, the massively obvious cover ups by the FBI.

Comments?

J. Gordon Liddy from the grassy knoll from CIA orders initiated by Nixon....

I don't think Oswald is off the hook. I think he was set up to be the fall guy. The picture was bigger than he imagined, I believe he did say something about the truth coming out before Jack Ruby got him.

review the recent science
I've never been a fan of big conspiracies -- someone eventually blabs if only because they usually lack the motivation to carry the secret into the grave. (What was Ruby's motivation?) But Occam's Razor doesn't support the lone gunman theory because there are too many important loose ends it doesn't explain.

Anyone serious about the JFK hit should review the recent science which concludes:
"The congruence between the acoustic evidence and the sequence of events derived from a reconstruction of the crime from video evidence is the major factor that led acoustic experts to conclude that there was a gunshot from the Grassy Knoll during the assassination. The critiques of the acoustic evidence by the NRC panel and the FBI laboratory failed to consider that evidence."

http://www.forensic-science-society.org.uk/Thomas.pdf

As to who the 2nd shooter was, I don't know but I have to suspect a cell within CIA. The only groups capable of keeping secrets over generations are state intelligence agencies and the Vatican.

Yes, I believe the CIA did the deed, but how far up on the food chain can we take this? I don't believe they were rogues, and I don't think LBJ or Nixon called for the shot, though I would think it closer to Nixon than LBJ.

And, Nixon also ordered the murder of Bobby Kennedy - Melvin Belli was the lawyer for both Jack Ruby and Sirhan Sirhan

No, but he didn't cry at the news. I steer closer to a CIA/J. Edgar thing. Actually, I haven't seen anyone delve into a J. Edgar connection, that is my own(I think). That could be a thread in itself-Why, with all the dirty tricks J. Edgar pulled didn't anyone out his homosexuality? I have never understood that without shivering at the thought of the power he must have wielded.

Not in the cover of the night,
But in the great light of day,
the assassins came
And blotted out the life of reason.
His mind, oh, his mind
Was shattered.
The earth cried out;
Men gaped in amazement.
The nation swayed, fell,
Broke into a thousand pieces.
Men shivered on the edge of chaos.
The abyss had opened
And from its depths
The Great Beast held on God's great leash
Had broken loose; in his train
Came panic, chaos, rout.
Something had gone out of
The heart of life forever.
Not a man died that day.
But you and I, my brothers.
Therefore, in the name of the people we will.....

Find the Killer! Find the Killer!
Find the Killer! Find the Killer!
Find the Killer! Find the Killer!
Find the Killer!

(Enter Fall Guy. All point to him)
The Fall Guy!

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He did it!

(The Fall Guy gets shot)

From Act II; Scene 1: Dallas - the play "Adam King" by Alexander Francis Horn