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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2018 11:59 am
@Olivier5,
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Yet it will keep happening again and again

The failure of law enforcement? I hope not, they should tighten up real fast after this.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2018 11:59 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

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should have never happened.

Yet it will keep happening again and again, like mass killings and school shootings and all this ****... For freedom sodding sake.


Yeah, cops shouldn't be allowed to have guns.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2018 12:04 pm
@farmerman,
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Maid Marian Hammer seems to be a counter to your above opinion. he serves up bills for her congressman to ubmit so they keep their campaign donation stream continuously flowing.


Do you know the name of her counterpart that keeps the money pouring in from Planned Parenthood? Fetuses are unarmed.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2018 12:16 pm
@McGentrix,
The point is that cops shouldn't feel afraid of being shot by anyone out there at any time. Such a constant fear must make a lot of them trigger happy. I guess they think: better safe than sorry.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2018 12:21 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

The point is that cops shouldn't feel afraid of being shot by anyone out there at any time. Such a constant fear must make a lot of them trigger happy. I guess they think: better safe than sorry.


Then they shouldn't be cops. It's a hard job that requires you to place your own safety over the safety of others. That means you are not just another civilian with a gun and you have to be held to higher standards than the average Joe. If I was afraid to work, I would change jobs.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2018 12:26 pm
@McGentrix,
I think it's universal. There's something stubbornly true about violence begotting violence. If most of the citizens are loaded, the cops will tend to be trigger-happy in their encounters with citizens.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2018 12:51 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

I think it's universal. There's something stubbornly true about violence begotting violence. If most of the citizens are loaded, the cops will tend to be trigger-happy in their encounters with citizens.


The guy in the article above didn't have a gun though. He exhibited no violent behaviors and was on his own property in his backyard.

NSFW (view)
Olivier5
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2018 01:24 pm
@McGentrix,
Yes, but they pumped 21 bullets into him because they were afraid he had a gun.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2018 01:35 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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So now PornHub is the new home of these YouTube-banned gun vloggers

No peeking, Wally.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2018 02:32 pm
@coldjoint,
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Do you know the name of her counterpart that keeps the money pouring in from Planned Parenthood? Fetuses are unarmed.
Im not certain what youre going off about?? Maybe someone with expereience in the socioanxiety complexes can answer you to your satisfaction.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2018 02:37 pm
@farmerman,
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Im not certain what youre going off about??


You are not certain about a lot of things, the problem is you will never admit it. Now for what I said Republicans are associated with the NRA. Democrats get all kinds of money from PP, and champion their cause.
I hope you are better now.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2018 03:02 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
Another way this gun culture is killing: police officers scared for their lives and shooting at any black man holding any object that could be miqunderstood as a gun.

Happens to white people too. At the Las Vegas Costco, a white guy legally carrying a concealed weapon was accosted by a store worker who didn't like guns. When he blew him off, the store worker maliciously called 911 and reported a guy with a gun lurching around and being disruptive at the store. The police came and had everyone file out of the store. When the guy with the CCW filed out the store worker started hysterically pointing to him and yelling the police that he was the guy. The police mistook his cell phone in his hands as a gun and shot him to death.

At least when it's a black guy the police own up to their mistakes and pay compensation to the family. In the case of the white guy, Costco and the police entered into a conspiracy. Costco would hide the surveillance video of the shooting and the police would hide the recording of the 911 call.

To this day the family has received no justice or compensation.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2018 03:03 pm
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:
Even so, you think that their response of 20 rounds fired isn't a tad much? They are trained police officers wearing body armor...

They are trained to fire continuously until the target collapses. If there are multiple police officers firing it can often be more than 40 rounds.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2018 03:05 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
The point is that cops shouldn't feel afraid of being shot by anyone out there at any time.

That's the reality of being a police officer the world over.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2018 03:06 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Im not certain what youre going off about??

He was asking if you worry about pro-abortion feminist nutcase lobbyists as much as you worry about pro-Second-Amendment civil rights lobbyists.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2018 03:15 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

That's the reality of being a police officer the world over.

Not really. In countries where most folks ain't carrying guns, cops ain't that nervous and trigger-happy. They can over-react of course but it's less likely lethal.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2018 03:20 pm
@Olivier5,
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Not really. In countries where most folks ain't carrying guns, cops ain't that nervous and trigger-happy.


That would be mainly European countries, and those police a very nervous and heavily armed because of Islamic inspired terror. But a citizen being raped or mugged has nothing to defend themselves with.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2018 03:27 pm
@oralloy,
So you guys trade off Amendments in the US Constitution???. When you guys get backed into corners why do you always try to avert peoples views from the topic at hand???
McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2018 03:30 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

McGentrix wrote:
Even so, you think that their response of 20 rounds fired isn't a tad much? They are trained police officers wearing body armor...

They are trained to fire continuously until the target collapses. If there are multiple police officers firing it can often be more than 40 rounds.


They are also trained in threat assessment and reasonable force. This was neither.
 

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