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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2023 12:26 am
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:
A very large number of people do not see gun control as repressive.

We need to incarcerate and enslave these people.
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vikorr
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2023 12:28 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Those differences are of little significance. Most murders are one-on-one affairs at close range. Knives are quite lethal under such circumstances.

Those differences are of:
- major significance to mass school shootings. They are at the heart of the choice of weapon for mass murder in schools.
- major signficance to those that ran but got shot
- major signficance to those killed at a distance (Las Vegas killings for example)

-it's also why the saying developed 'dont bring a knife to a gunfight'

To a person killed with a knife - it makes no difference whatsoever - dead is dead.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2023 12:28 am
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:
Those laws apply to all murders / homicides...while drink driving, age limit to drink, who can sell alcohol, who can buy alcohol, responsible service of alcohol etc all relate purely to specifically alcohol. Going by Glennn's raised issue...Guns should be regulated as well (as he said it is hypocritical to complain about Gun deaths when there are alcohol deaths...by the same token it must be hypocritical to complain about gun regulation when there is alcohol regulation)

Both guns and alcohol are dangerous. Both guns and alcohol are regulated.

The complaint is not about regulation of guns. The complaint is about gun laws that serve no purpose but to violate people's rights for no reason.

Gun control has nothing to do with proper regulation. It is merely an attempt by progressives to harm innocent people for fun.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2023 12:32 am
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:
doing without a car would be very difficult.

Not at all. Take a bus. Or a licensed taxi.
vikorr
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2023 12:41 am
@oralloy,
As I said - very difficult.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2023 12:52 am
@vikorr,
I don't find it difficult to ride on a bus or take a taxi. I've done both before. It was pretty easy.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2023 12:53 am
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:
Those differences are of:
- major significance to mass school shootings. They are at the heart of the choice of weapon for mass murder in schools.
- major signficance to those that ran but got shot
- major signficance to those killed at a distance (Las Vegas killings for example)

Those cases represent an insignificant portion of the murders that happen in this country. The vast majority of murders are one-on-one affairs at close range.

The Las Vegas shooting would have been much less lethal without bump stocks, which have since been outlawed.

Also, I suspect that a lot of "unsolved gang murders" in the US are actually just suburban vigilante groups protecting their neighborhoods from minorities that were suspected of criminal activity. The true murder rate in the US is likely to be a lot lower than advertised.
vikorr
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2023 12:59 am
@oralloy,
You can call them insignificant - but they are the ones that news treats as very significant; the ones that appall people the most; and the ones people object to the most, and the ones that people fear the most (ie. their children being targetted in one of these style shootings)

Nothing in the above says they don't object to other murders etc - just that the mass school shootings are, relatively, much more significant to most people (hence why the news also treats them as more signficant)
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2023 01:13 am
@vikorr,
What percentage of murders are mass school shootings? Less than 1% I bet.

At any rate, there are already strong laws against mass murder. There isn't much more that can be done, except for arming teachers so they can protect their students.
vikorr
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2023 01:20 am
@oralloy,
How does that change anything I said?
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2023 02:07 am
@vikorr,
I'm not sure that it does. It adds to it though.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2023 02:08 am
@oralloy,
Shooting up schools is what these sick shits get off on.

Fantasising about killing children makes them feel big.

Only a cockroach needs a gun.

We protect our children from such ****.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2023 02:14 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Shooting up schools is what these sick shits get off on.
Fantasising about killing children makes them feel big.

You mean school shooters?? That is not what seems to drive them. They seem rather to be lashing out against bullies.


izzythepush wrote:
Only a cockroach needs a gun.
We protect our children from such ****.

This nonsense about "need" is serf-speak.

Serfdom is just about the last thing that you guys protect children from.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2023 02:21 am
@vikorr,
That's called sealioning.

Glenn is repulsive, when he's not getting off on gun killings he's gloating about the unvaccinated dying.

He spreads lies disinformation and misery to satify his own disgusting perversions.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2023 02:23 am
@Mame,
They're terrified of waking up one day to hear that no more children have been killed.

Whataboutthat is all they've ever had.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Reply Wed 18 Jan, 2023 08:21 am
Another mass shooting in Florida, the 30th this year, and it's only the 17th January.

That's almost two mass shootings by the NRA every day.

Quote:
A shooting which erupted on a packed Martin Luther King Jr Day block party in Florida that left eight people wounded late on Monday was the 30th mass shooting in the US this year, according to the Gun Violence Archive.

Authorities said one person was critically hurt after the shooting during the event in Fort Pierce. Seven others were also shot and wounded, and at least four more hurt in the panic that followed.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/17/florida-shooting-martin-luther-king-day-party-fort-pierce
Mame
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jan, 2023 09:54 am
@oralloy,
Well, they sure did do one thing wrong - leave a loaded firearm where a six-year old could get it and take it to school and shoot his teacher.

That's irresponsible and just plain stupid.
jcboy
 
  2  
Reply Wed 18 Jan, 2023 10:08 am
@Mame,
I read about that, a six year old with access to a loaded handgun! disgusting. Made me wonder what kind of a home life this boy has!
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jan, 2023 10:13 am
@jcboy,
Six is young, but not the youngest by any means.

In Indiana a man has been arrested after a toddler was seen with a handgun.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jan, 2023 10:42 am
@izzythepush,

go, Murrika, go ❗

start 'em when they're still a-youngins...
 

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