@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Why do you always side with the murderers?
It's sad that being a gun rights activist means you are " always side with the murderers" to so many people.
It's like equating pro-choice to siding with child murderers. Just another false equivocation and just another straw man to toss on the fire.
@McGentrix,
Quote:
It's sad that being a gun rights activist means you are " always side with the murderers" to so many people
Similarly sad when someone , in favor of stricter controls on gun owners, are called anti American. You seem to live around the 2nd amendment at thesexpense of denying the first
HuffPost
02/15/2018 10:07 am ET Updated 3 hours ago
Trump Says Florida Students Should Have Done More To Prevent Deadly Shooting
Meanwhile, the president has actually made it easier for people with mental health issues to buy guns.
By Alana Horowitz Satlin
President Donald Trump on Thursday responded to the massacre at a South Florida high school by suggesting students and the surrounding community could have done more to prevent the attack.
At least 17 people were killed and 15 injured after a troubled former student opened fire on Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, on Wednesday, police said. Nikolas Cruz, 19, had been expelled from the school the previous year for “disciplinary reasons,” and many of his former classmates told media on Wednesday that he displayed problematic behavior.
“Honestly a lot of people were saying it was going to be him,” one student told CBS Miami. “We actually, a lot of kids threw jokes around like that, saying that he’s the one to shoot up the school, but it turns out everyone predicted it. It’s crazy.”
A former teacher, Jim Gard, told the Miami Herald that Cruz reportedly wasn’t allowed to carry a backpack on the school campus, and that “there were problems with him last year threatening students.”
Contrary to Trump’s tweet, it does appear that authorities were aware of Cruz’s behavior before the attack. A former neighbor told The New York Times that Cruz’s late mother called the police on her two sons on multiple occasions, though she stressed that she didn’t think the boys were violent. Broward County Mayor Beam Furr told CNN that Cruz had been treated at a mental health clinic in the past and was somewhat on officials’ radar.
“It wasn’t like there wasn’t concern for him,” Furr said.
Trump’s tweet failed to acknowledge the role that Florida’s lax gun laws played in the shooting. Barring institutionalization, it’s extremely difficult to keep someone with a history of mental illness from buying a gun in Florida. The accused killer legally purchased the AR-15-style rifle used in the slaughter, his family’s attorney said.
The president also ignored the fact that he actually made it easier for people with mental health issues to buy guns by revoking an Obama-era gun regulation last year.
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:Why do you always side with the murderers?
I don't. I merely prevent liberals from violating civil rights for no reason.
I'd prevent liberals from violating civil rights even if they did have a reason, of course.
But let's be honest, liberals have no reason for violating people's rights other than the joy they get out of violating their rights.
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:Similarly sad when someone , in favor of stricter controls on gun owners, are called anti American.
America is all about freedom and civil rights. When liberals propose abolishing freedom and civil rights, that is anti-American.
farmerman wrote:You seem to live around the 2nd amendment at thesexpense of denying the first
Support for the Second Amendment does not in any way harm the First Amendment.
@coluber2001,
Quote:Meanwhile, the president has actually made it easier for people with mental health issues to buy guns.
Fake news. He did no such thing.
@oralloy,
Yes, he did. Chuck Grassley introduced the bill to allow mentally ill people to begin buying guns again, the Republicans passed it and Herr Trump signed it. Google it and see Donald holding up the signed Bill like a kid at show and tell. People on the "no fly list" are no longer prevented from buying guns. You should be thanking Donald Trump for his avid support of the Second Amendment.
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:
Yes, he did. Chuck Grassley introduced the bill to allow mentally ill people to begin buying guns again, the Republicans passed it and Herr Trump signed it. Google it and see Donald holding up the signed Bill like a kid at show and tell. People on the "no fly list" are no longer prevented from buying guns. You should be thanking Donald Trump for his avid support of the Second Amendment.
Hey look, I just pointed out one of the many things you have written that was wrong or misleading.
A student of the school is quoted as saying this in a message to Trump: {I haven't seen any corroboration}
“I don’t want your condolences you ******* price of ****, my friends and teachers were shot. Multiple of my fellow classmates are dead. Do something instead of sending prayers. Prayers won’t fix this. But Gun control will prevent it from happening again.”
@oralloy,
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@coluber2001,
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Meanwhile, the president has actually made it easier for people with mental health issues to buy guns.
Fake news. He did no such thing
Just another in the multiple untruths oralloy has told, hile always maintaining he never tells anything false. Fake news yourself, oralloy. Somehow your "defense " of the Second Amendment always has you aiding and abetting the murders. It's true. You do. I've never seen you expressing any sympathyor remorse at all for the innocent victims shot and killed. Sociopathic all the way.None.
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:Yes, he did.
No he didn't.
glitterbag wrote:Chuck Grassley introduced the bill to allow mentally ill people to begin buying guns again, the Republicans passed it and Herr Trump signed it.
That bill had nothing whatsoever to do with mentally ill people.
glitterbag wrote:Google it and see Donald holding up the signed Bill like a kid at show and tell.
Last I heard, the White House was not releasing any pictures of the signing.
glitterbag wrote:People on the "no fly list" are no longer prevented from buying guns.
They were never prevented to begin with (and that is a good thing).
glitterbag wrote:You should be thanking Donald Trump for his avid support of the Second Amendment.
Is the profuse thanks that I've already posted somehow not enough?
I'll offer more thanks when they pass the SHARE Act, the Veterans 2nd Amendment Protection Act, and/or the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act.
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:Hey look, I just pointed out one of the many things you have written that was wrong or misleading.
No, you merely made a series of untrue statements.
You cannot point out a single case of me being wrong or misleading.
@Wilso,
Wilso wrote:Gun advocates. **** YOU.
There is nothing quite so hateful as a freedom hater.
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:A student of the school is quoted as saying this in a message to Trump: {I haven't seen any corroboration}
“I don’t want your condolences you ******* price of ****, my friends and teachers were shot. Multiple of my fellow classmates are dead. Do something instead of sending prayers. Prayers won’t fix this. But Gun control will prevent it from happening again.”
Like I just said above, freedom haters are filled with hate.
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:Just another in the multiple untruths oralloy has told,
Nope. Everything I said there was correct. You cannot point out any incorrect statements that I've made anywhere else either.
MontereyJack wrote:hile always maintaining he never tells anything false.
I've never claimed infallibility. But you certainly can't point out anything that I've ever said that is untrue.
MontereyJack wrote:Fake news yourself, oralloy.
Nope. Everything I said there was true.
MontereyJack wrote:Somehow your "defense " of the Second Amendment always has you aiding and abetting the murders.
No it doesn't.
MontereyJack wrote:It's true.
No it isn't.
MontereyJack wrote:You do.
No I don't.
MontereyJack wrote:I've never seen you expressing any sympathyor remorse at all for the innocent victims shot and killed. Sociopathic all the way.None.
Remorse for something that I'm not responsible for? Don't be silly.
You know, it’s probably not gun control regulations that would help with this. I think we just need a few million more thoughts and prayers. I’m sure god has been keeping track of how many prayers have been made and just like a telethon, once we get to 1 billion thoughts and prayers we’ll have hit the goal and the problem will be solved!!!
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:You know, it’s probably not gun control regulations that would help with this.
Correct. Liberals pursue such measures solely because they get joy from violating other people's civil rights.
@farmerman,
As has already been repeatedly pointed out, nothing in that rule had anything to do with mental illness.
Obama was deliberately targeting ordinary people of sound mind.
Had he been allowed to succeed with that outrage, he would have expanded it to include more and more people. Next on the target list was people who wear glasses (a tribute to the left's hero Pol Pot).
The left's goal is to prevent everyone (you too) from having guns.
