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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2021 08:17 am
@oralloy,
Yes, they are, which is fortunate indeed since the progressives are there to get everything right that the conservatives always get wrong..
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2021 10:11 am
@MontereyJack,
The only thing that progressives ever try to do is violate people's civil liberties for fun. There is nothing right about that.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2021 10:26 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Yep. means it's true.

Wrong again. Fake news isn't true.


MontereyJack wrote:
as opposed to fox, oan, washington examiner,....

Fox News and Washington Examiner are just as credible as CNN, MSNBC, and the Guardian.

I'm unfamiliar with OAN, but I notice that you've lumped them in with some reasonably reliable media.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2021 10:29 am
@oralloy,
conservatives are sick. they think mass murder equates to civil liberties.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2021 10:36 am
@oralloy,
fake news is fake news. it's the lpopaganda the rabid right puts out which they call news, when it's really just total fun house mirror bias. it's the stuff you mistakenly call credible.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2021 11:16 am
@MontereyJack,
No mistake. Fox News and Washington Examiner have the same credibility rating as CNN, MSNBC, and the Guardian.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2021 11:17 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
conservatives are sick. they think mass murder equates to civil liberties.

Conservatives think no such thing. Your efforts to outlaw pistol grips have nothing whatsoever to do with trying to prevent mass murder.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2021 11:42 am
@oralloy,
Ypur lies about it being about pistol grips have no contact with reality.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2021 11:43 am
@oralloy,
no, they don't.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2021 04:06 pm
@MontereyJack,
Yes they do.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/left/cnn-bias/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/msnbc/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-guardian/
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2021 04:08 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Your lies about it being about pistol grips have no contact with reality.

That would be your lies. When you try to outlaw pistol grips, you are trying to outlaw pistol grips.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2021 05:21 pm
@oralloy,
you didnt actually read their critiques, did you? does not bear you out.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2021 05:31 pm
@oralloy,
You play the part of an idiot so convincingly. somehow you manage to leave out the relevant part of those laws. they are ALL talking avout SEMI AUTOMATIC WEAPONS WITH DETACHABLE MAGAZINES, which may not even have pistol grips. You could put a pistol grip on a kentucky long rifle and it would not be illegal. you could even bolt on to a chevy camaro and it would not be illegal. you are just being supr silly,, as you have been for years.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2021 06:03 pm
@MontereyJack,
Progressives spout childish name-calling because they are incapable of using facts and logic.

There is nothing relevant about the fact that the law only applies to semi-autos with detachable magazines.

It's still a law against pistol grips.

There is still no justification for outlawing pistol grips beyond the fact that progressives enjoy violating people's civil liberties.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2021 06:05 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
you didnt actually read their critiques, did you? does not bear you out.

Wrong again. All receive the exact same mixed rating on factual reliability.
hightor
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2021 06:43 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
There is still no justification for outlawing pistol grips...

There is.
Quote:
...beyond the fact that progressives enjoy violating people's civil liberties.

They don't.

You repeatedly attempt to pass off this self-coined canard as if it were some sort of established, generally agreed upon, fact when in reality it's only some simplistic little personal slogan you trot out to avoid having to provide any evidence for your claims or back them up with logic.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2021 07:12 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
There is.

Highly unlikely. But if so, then you will be able to say what this alleged justification is.

I'm guessing that you can't, but we'll see.


hightor wrote:
They don't.

If that were so, then someone could provide some other alterative motivation for outlawing pistol grips.

Up to this point, no one has yet managed to provide any such alternative motivation.


hightor wrote:
You repeatedly attempt to pass off this self-coined canard as if it were some sort of established, generally agreed upon, fact

It is indeed a fact.

I am well aware that progressives reject reality, and I have never said that progressives agree that facts are true.


hightor wrote:
when in reality it's only some simplistic little personal slogan you trot out to avoid having to provide any evidence for your claims or back them up with logic.

That's an outright lie. I am always happy to back up my claims with either cites or logic.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2021 07:16 pm
@oralloy,
so you didn't actually read the critiques where they explain their rat\ings, where the right wing propaganda fares worse than the reputable outfits. thought so.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2021 07:18 pm
@oralloy,
You really are impervious to reason, logic, sand evidence. that's not name-calling, it's cold hard fact.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2021 07:32 pm
@MontereyJack,
No, that's a lie. All of my claims are backed with logic and evidence.
 

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