Guns: how much longer will it take ....

@oralloy,

everytime you repeat those same flase claims, your nose gets a little bit longer, Pinocchio.

@MontereyJack,

The only liar here is you. You're on record. Here is a post where you praised a law that banned pistol grips:
https://able2know.org/topic/203766-209#post-5227079

And for you to try to claim that laws against pistol grips are not about pistol grips just shows how delusional you are.

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@oralloy,

Your nose must hve grown six inches longer with those posts.

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@MontereyJack,

Nope. Reality is still on my side no matter how much you deny it.

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@oralloy,

dreamer

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@MontereyJack,

Deny reality all you like. I provided a link to you praising a law against pistol grips.

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@oralloy,

false. you said it, i didn't. you're wrong, as alwways.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

false. you said it, i didn't. you're wrong,

Nope. That is a link to your post, not a link to my post.

MontereyJack wrote:

as always.

You're a fraud. You cannot back that up by pointing out any place where I've ever been wrong.

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@oralloy,

go back and look at it agAIN. THAT WAS A LINK TO your POST, NOT MINE, A POST IN WHICH YOU ONCE AGAIN FALSELY INTERPRETED WHAT I WAS SAYING, AS YOU HAVE DONE REPEATEDLY. NI'VE CORRECTED YOU AND YOU KEEP RFEPOSTING IT, WHICH MEANS IT';S A LIE ON YUR PART. again, damned caplslock.

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@MontereyJack,

No, this is a link to your post.

https://able2know.org/topic/203766-209#post-5227079

There are no false interpretations here. You are clearly praising a law against pistol grips.

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@oralloy,

notice what it was in reference to. your post, which was nonsense. Your claim about my post is totally untrue. as is usualk for you.

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@MontereyJack,

The only nonsense here is coming from you. That law bans pistol grips on semi-auto long guns, and you are on record praising the ban.

And don't pretend this is about saving lives. Outlawing pistol grips has nothing to do with saving any lives.

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@oralloy,

It bans ,more weapons than before. it also bans weapons without pistol grips. that is the point. more weapoons banned. that is a smalll step forward. that is what i was in favor of. more weapons banned. you on the other hand don't goive a **** if peokple die. i do.

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@oralloy,

banning weapons, not .grips. clearly you cactuallydo not comprehend clear lanmguage

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@MontereyJack,

Wrong again. Laws against pistol grips are about outlawing pistol grips.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

It bans, more weapons than before.

It bans more weapons with pistol grips.

MontereyJack wrote:

it also bans weapons without pistol grips.

Banning other harmless cosmetic features is just as much a pointless violation of people's civil liberties as banning pistol grips.

MontereyJack wrote:

that is the point. more weapons banned.

More harmless weapons banned with no justification whatsoever.

MontereyJack wrote:

that is a small step forward.

Banning harmless weapons without justification is a step forward only for people who enjoy violating people's civil liberties for fun.

MontereyJack wrote:

that is what i was in favor of. more weapons banned.

I'm sure you enjoyed violating people's civil liberties for no reason.

You'll need to compensate all the people you harmed before I will ever support any new gun legislation.

MontereyJack wrote:

you on the other hand don't give a **** if people die. i do.

Don't be silly. Your efforts to ban pistol grips and other harmless cosmetic features has nothing whatsoever to do with saving any lives.

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@oralloy,

Quote:

NBC News
Biden to announce executive actions on guns, name ATF nominee
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WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden is expected to announce Thursday executive actions involving gun control as well as nominate a new head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, according to a White House official.

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The actions will involve regulating "ghost guns," which are homemade guns that do not have traceable serial number, as well as background checks. Biden will also name David Chipman as his nominee to take over ATF.

The announcement comes as Biden faces pressure from Democrats and gun control activists to take action to address gun violence in the wake of recent mass shootings in Georgia, Colorado and California.

Chipman currently serves as senior policy adviser at Giffords, the gun control advocacy group led by former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz. He previously served 25 years as a special agent at ATF.

ATF leaders have historically faced trouble getting confirmed in the Senate. The last head of the bureau to be confirmed was B. Todd Jones in 2013. Before Jones, the bureau went without a Senate-confirmed leader for seven years.

Since Jones stepped down in 2015, the ATF has had only acting directors. Regina Lombardo, appointed under Trump, is currently the acting director.

Although Biden promised during his campaign to take a number of action addressing gun control, activists have been dismayed that it had not been an early priority for his administration, especially as the recent mass shootings sparked fresh debate on how to tackle gun violence.

At a press conference in late March, Biden indicated that he was focused on legislative priorities other than gun control, such as his infrastructure plan.

"It’s a matter of timing," he said, when asked what actions he might take to tackle gun violence. "As you’ve all observed, successful presidents, better than me, have been successful in large part because they know how to time what they’re doing, order it, decide priorities, what needs to be done."

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you rock, joe

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@oralloy,

and a fuller picture of yhe upcoming e.o.

Quote:

Bloomberg
Biden Taps Gun Control Backer as Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms Boss
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(Bloomberg) -- President Joe Biden has tapped David Chipman, a gun control advocate, to lead the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Chipman is a senior policy adviser at Giffords, an organization led by former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, an Arizona Democrat who was gravely wounded injured in a 2011 shooting that killed six other people, including a federal judge. The group focuses on tightening gun control measures.

a person wearing a suit and tie sitting in front of a crowd: U.S. House Judiciary Committee Holds Hearing On Protecting America From Assault Weapons© Photographer: Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images North America U.S. House Judiciary Committee Holds Hearing On Protecting America From Assault Weapons
David Chipman

Photographer: Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

Chipman was a special agent for the ATF for 25 years. During his career with the bureau, he disrupted a gun trafficking ring that operated between Virginia and New York City and became special agent in charge of the ATF’s firearms programs, according to his biography on Giffords.

“It is far too easy for violent people to get their hands on deadly weapons,” Chipman said at a September 2019 congressional hearing. “The American people overwhelmingly want Congress to act now to make their communities safer. Assault weapons are a class of semiautomatic firearms originally intended for military use designed to kill people quickly and efficiently. These weapons are often the weapon of choice for mass shooters.”

Chipman would have to win Senate confirmation to assume the role of ATF director. Giffords’ husband is Senator Mark Kelly, an Arizona Democrat who was elected in November.

For more articles like this, please visit us at bloomberg.com

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@oralloy,

How moronic is it possible for conservatives to get. Pistol grips aren't what's banned. It's what they're bolted to that's bannmed, the semi-automatic guns with detachable magazines. that's why they're called assault weapons bans, not pistol grip eat al bans. You're just being super silly as usual. pistol grips et al are just in there to tell which semiautos are banned, pirely definitional, as you know full well. try facing the facts for once.

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@oralloy,

and ar15s are certainly not harmless as you contended twice in your recent ludoicrous post. that's why they were banned, not the grips.

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