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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 27 Mar, 2021 05:22 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy says:
Quote:
t our freedom is worth any amount of death
sociopathy incarnate.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Mar, 2021 10:06 pm
@MontereyJack,
No. I'm just a standard American who loves freedom.

The real sociopath is you for not wanting to ban cars. Think of all the accident victims who would be saved if cars were outlawed.

You won't even press for a law to mandate that all cars be gray colored to show how much you care about drunk driving.
oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Sat 27 Mar, 2021 10:08 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
What you claim is reality is only in your mind, certainly not outside you.

That is incorrect. Reality is everywhere.

I'm not responsible for reality. I'm just reporting what the facts are.
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Reply Sat 27 Mar, 2021 11:44 pm
@oralloy,
You do not report reaslity. you are not in touch with reality. all hyou report is your own opinion, which to be frank, sucks.
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Reply Sat 27 Mar, 2021 11:48 pm
@oralloy,
stupic, as isual. every day anothger gun atrocity, and you maintain it's all about pistol grips. No, it's about [people murdered with legally purchased guns, and you don't give a ****.the country does, but you don't.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 28 Mar, 2021 01:10 am
@oralloy,
No, you repeated your false assertion that the Federal Assault Weapons Ban does not address assault weapons in any way whatsoever—after I refuted it.

Mindless repetition of your fallacious averment doesn't make it any less fallacious.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 28 Mar, 2021 02:51 am
@InfraBlue,
Assault weapons by definition have either full-auto or burst-fire capability.

The law in question does not address any weapon with either full-auto or burst-fire capability.

Weapons with either full-auto or burst-fire capability were banned nearly 90 years ago in 1934.

I know, there are a few out there that are still legal. But they are extremely expensive collectors' items that are out of reach to the general public.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 28 Mar, 2021 02:54 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
stupid, as usual.

Not nearly as bad as progressives relentlessly focusing on pistol grips.


MontereyJack wrote:
every day another gun atrocity, and you maintain it's all about pistol grips.

Laws against pistol grips are indeed about pistol grips.


MontereyJack wrote:
No, it's about people murdered with legally purchased guns,

Laws against pistol grips are about pistol grips.


MontereyJack wrote:
and you don't give a ****. the country does, but you don't.

The pistol grips did not contribute to the murders in any way.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 28 Mar, 2021 02:55 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
You do not report reality.

You can't back that up with evidence of any untrue statements in my posts.


MontereyJack wrote:
you are not in touch with reality.

You can't back that up with evidence of any untrue statements in my posts.


MontereyJack wrote:
all you report is your own opinion,

Wrong. It is a fact that packing the courts means expanding the number of judges.

It is a fact that Mr. Trump did not pack the courts.

It is a fact that Republican judges uphold the law and the Constitution.

It is a fact that Democratic judges disregard the law and the Constitution.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 28 Mar, 2021 08:15 am
@oralloy,
those sren't facts, they're only your own opinions, no matter how firmly you may believe them, facts they are not. for one thing, pack,ing scoktus by excpanding the number of justices is only one way to doi it. Given the lifetime tenure of justices, it's usually the simplest way to do it, However trump had the unprercedented opportunity of ap[pointing three justices in four years, and he packed the court and shifted the balance by the unprecedented appointment of kthree far-right justices,
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Reply Sun 28 Mar, 2021 08:19 am
@oralloy,
Historical accident (i.e. justice deaths) made it possible for trump to pack the court in a way not available to FDR. you're dogmatic as usual but wrong as usual.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 28 Mar, 2021 11:25 am
@oralloy,
Wrong. You're confusing assault rifles with assault weapons as defined by the Federal Assault Weapons Ban.

You're confused about what the law in question does address, and are conflating terms therefrom.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 29 Mar, 2021 11:27 am
@InfraBlue,
I am not confused about anything. I have a natural immunity to confusion.

The definition provided in the law is fraudulent. "Assault weapons as defined by the Federal Assault Weapons Ban" are not actually assault weapons, and therefore should not be referred to as assault weapons.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 29 Mar, 2021 11:28 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Historical accident (i.e. justice deaths) made it possible for trump to pack the court in a way not available to FDR.

Filling vacancies isn't packing the court.


MontereyJack wrote:
you're dogmatic as usual but wrong as usual.

I am seldom wrong.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 29 Mar, 2021 11:32 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
those aren't facts, they're only your own opinions, no matter how firmly you may believe them, facts they are not.

That is incorrect. They are facts.


MontereyJack wrote:
for one thing, packing scotus by expanding the number of justices is only one way to do it.

That is incorrect. Packing the courts means expanding the number of judges.


MontereyJack wrote:
Given the lifetime tenure of justices, it's usually the simplest way to do it, However trump had the unprecedented opportunity of appointing three justices in four years, and he packed the court and shifted the balance by the unprecedented appointment of three far-right justices,

That's not packing the courts.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Mon 29 Mar, 2021 03:24 pm
@oralloy,
Yes, you are confused.

For the purposes of the law the definition provided of assault weapons is true and genuine.


MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 29 Mar, 2021 03:30 pm
@oralloy,
, cfvNope. hyper-partisan opinion projecting your political ideology on the world as if it were the only truth, when it isn't erven gtrjuth, just in yoour mind.
it was trump packing the court with an unprecedented three far right conservatives on an unwilling public. and running roughshod over their own prevus words to do it. And ironicsally they did it to ensure trumps;w s win in court if he lost the vote, which he did, and his reaction was so egregious that they wouldn't even sujpport him in hisattempt to steal the election.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 29 Mar, 2021 06:52 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Nope. hyper-partisan opinion projecting your political ideology on the world as if it were the only truth, when it isn't even truth, just in your mind.

That is incorrect. It's the truth.


MontereyJack wrote:
it was trump packing the court with an unprecedented three far right conservatives on an unwilling public.

That is incorrect. Mr. Trump did not expand the number of judges on the court.

I doubt that the public objects to the appointment of judges. However, it is appropriate to appoint judges even if the public does object.


MontereyJack wrote:
and running roughshod over their own previous words to do it. And ironically they did it to ensure trump's win in court if he lost the vote, which he did, and his reaction was so egregious that they wouldn't even support him in his attempt to steal the election.

Who are we talking about? Who does "they" refer to??
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 29 Mar, 2021 06:53 pm
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
Yes, you are confused.

No I'm not. I am naturally immune to confusion.


InfraBlue wrote:
For the purposes of the law the definition provided of assault weapons is true and genuine.

When there is a conflict between "the law" and "facts and reality", I much prefer to take the side of facts and reality.

If the Democrats pass a law defining the sky as being yellow colored, I will continue saying that the sky is blue.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Mon 29 Mar, 2021 08:16 pm
@oralloy,
Yes, you are confused.

The definition of assault weapon in the law are facts and reality for the purposes of the law.

Sometimes the sky is yellow, a law would be correct in pointing that out regardless of who passed it.
 

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