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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jan, 2010 11:56 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Any obsession with what is essentially a tool is unhealthy, David.
U probably woud not have said that if I were obsessed
with cars or with math.



David wrote:
Yes. I don 't. I deny that danger exists.


Cycloptichorn wrote:
It is possible that you are truly incapable of understanding my point, because you have gone too far down the road of selfishness and greed; to the point where you have bought into your own self-justifying bullshit.

Cycloptichorn
Everyone shoud be selfish and greedy (not stingy).
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jan, 2010 11:57 am
@OmSigDAVID,
I doubt you've put much thought into your 'everyone should be selfish and greedy' theory. The real effects on your life wouldn't be ones that you liked.

Cycloptichorn
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jan, 2010 12:45 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
I doubt you've put much thought into your 'everyone should be selfish and greedy' theory.
The real effects on your life wouldn't be ones that you liked.
What effects ?


I have believed in selfishness & greed all of my life.
At a very early age (maybe 5) my mother advised me
against being selfish: I rejected that out-of-hand
and was a bit shocked that she 'd say that.
I feel ill-at-ease with anyone who is, or alleges to be, unselfish,
but consistent with that, it can be fun to be generous,
depending on the circumstances.



David
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Advocate
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jan, 2010 04:11 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Dave, you are such a tough guy. I imagine you would just give them such a smack.
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jan, 2010 04:15 pm
Does anyone here really believe any of this horseshit that David commonly peddles about what he believed or did when he was four or five years old? He must think people here are really stupid.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jan, 2010 05:01 pm
@Setanta,
I dont know but Dave has been fairly consistent in his preaching of Hedonism . He seems to practice the concept that giving himself pleasure is the maximum good (for him).
I believe that he is more an Epicurean than anything else but, I rarely hang out with Hedonists becaue you wouldnt want one looking after yer back.
Knowing that, you could discount him as "ein Heldenlebender".

I therefore picture him as rather shallow, self absorbed, and unadventurous.

What was yer question again?
parados
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jan, 2010 05:07 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
I therefore picture him as rather shallow, self absorbed, and unadventurous.

I think David is a sociopath. You guys can sit around some day in the future and remark about how he always seemed so nice and you can't believe he would use his guns the way he did. I won't be surprised one bit.

Guns and a lack of empathy for your fellow human beings does not a good mix make.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jan, 2010 05:14 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:
Quote:
I therefore picture him as rather shallow, self absorbed, and unadventurous.

I think David is a sociopath. You guys can sit around some day in the future and remark about how he always seemed so nice and you can't believe he would use his guns the way he did. I won't be surprised one bit.

Guns and a lack of empathy for your fellow human beings does not a good mix make.
Thay r good for ME;that 's what counts.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jan, 2010 05:15 pm
@parados,
Hmmmm, maybe ya got something there, but I think he would weigh his options were he to shoot someone in anything but self-defense. Hed weigh the fact that hed have to eat institutional food the rest of his life and would probably be a sex toy of some big felon. THis he'd weigh against missing his "opulent hedonistic dinners" that hes always regailing us with.

But, course Im only talking outta my ass here so , lacking any conclusive evidence, Ill stick with my story, k?
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jan, 2010 11:00 pm
@farmerman,
He's obviously shallow and self-absorbed, but i don't consider that under dispute. He makes up stories, and apparently, expects that they'll be taken at face value. They involve showing him as highly intelligent (no evidence of that here, although he mentions his mensa membership on a regular basis), and perceptive from an early age--and that's what i find so ridiculous.

He once told me that he had heard of the Sullivan Act from "the commie next door" (his exact words) and ran home crying to his Mother to find out if it were true. He alleges that this happened when he was four years old. I think he went off the deep end a long time ago, and he's probably repeated his goofy stories for so long that he's begun to believe them himself.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 12:34 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Hmmmm, maybe ya got something there,
but I think he would weigh his options
were he to shoot someone in anything but self-defense.
I am non-malicious.
Y waste ammo ?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 01:25 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

I guess it's one thing that your guns will never protect you from -
losing an essential part of your Humanity.

Cycloptichorn
Is this your personal superstition, Cyclo,
about losing part of my humanity, or do u have some evidence of this?
What is the source of your information about this?
Did u get it in a dream ??
Did a fairy tell u? or an elf?


Please attempt to be more serious, David.

Cycloptichorn
When I wrote asking u of elves n fairys,
I implied that you lacked the quality of being serious
in alleging that I was "losing an essential part of your Humanity".
U appear to re-define "humanity" in some secret way.
Its not likely that my Individualism, nor my love of promoting greed
in each American citizen has affected my DNA.

When I have social contact with people, especially the young,
if a convenient opportunity arises for this, I try to employ clever
or creative ways to encourage selfishness and greed in each citizen
(not to imply being stingy, because sometimes generosity can be FUN)
and to question, challenge and subvert unselfishness, which is unnatural and perverse.

Cyclo: being coercive, being extortive in support of your favorite charities,
being authoritarian, being oriented toward collectivism does NOT make u more human
than u were b4 u adopted those practices (as if the humans had to be extortionists).
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 01:35 am
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:
Dave, you are such a tough guy.
I usually don t find a need to be tuff,
tho I can be demanding qua my rights.



Advocate wrote:
I imagine you would just give them such a smack.
Smack who ??
What is the reason for smacking?
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 04:12 am
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:
Police found that he was wearing a bulletproof vest


Good for him. That's his Constitutional right.



Advocate wrote:
and carrying a customized assault rifle with ammunition that is typically found in heavy weapons mounted on military vehicles.


Good for him. That's his Constitutional right.



Advocate wrote:
found a second assault rifle, a grenade-launcher,


Is "grenade launcher" short for "flash suppressor"?



Advocate wrote:
You can rest assured that the suspect will claim that he is an avid hunter, and that he has a right to bear arms as provided in 2A.


I couldn't tell you if he hunts, but he does indeed have the right to keep and bear arms.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 04:13 am
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:
It is pretty implicit. We need strong gun control.


That's a pretty ambiguous proposal.

It likely involves things that would violate the Constitution, but since you were so vague it is hard to tell for sure.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 04:15 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
Gun control is not unconstitutional, something which the majority opinion in Heller emphasizes.


That depends on the details of the gun control. Some is Constitutional, and some isn't.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 04:18 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
I 'd say that each of the 300 000 000 + American citizens
shoud exalt his own personal well being above the "common welfare."


A disgusting attitude, one which would be condemned by anyone who actually still walked around with a soul.


Nah. That's just the American tradition of supporting freedom over security.
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 04:24 am
@oralloy,
At what point does a person keeping and bearing arms become a liability and the state have a compelling interest to limit access to firearms?

What I get from gun types is that it is somewhere before a nuclear warhead, but not much more clear than that. Care to take a shot at it?

Does the constitution grant you the right to say have several RPGs?

T
K
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 05:31 am
@Setanta,
I tend to agree but then again, weve all known precocious kids . Recently Walter had posted some pix of this 6 year old kid from Germany (?) who paints watercolors like Edward Hopper.
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 05:40 am
@oralloy,
Play your idiot child word games with someone else. David said that gun control is unconstitutional, a blanket statement which does not distinguish between gun control legislative acts. That is clearly false, and that it is false is evident from the majority decision in Heller.
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