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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

blah blah blah. His father and his fiancée were out to dinner.

And they just happened to not notice a bunch of police cars on the street and cops swarming around a dead body in the back yard when they got home?

Even if they could manage to not notice something like that, the fact remains, the fight happened far away from Trayvon's back yard.

The fight happened in the spot where Mr. Zimmerman had halted his pursuit five minutes earlier on the advice of the dispatcher.

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@oralloy,

try to prove that. Hou're wrong. And the body and the cops were apparenylylong gone when theygot back, since they didn't notice them .

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@MontereyJack,

Here is a map showing the location of the confrontation and where it relates to Mr. Zimmerman's truck and Trayvon's house.

They didn't notice the police and dead body in their back yard because the police and dead body were a couple blocks away.

https://statelymcdanielmanor.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/martin-map.png

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@oralloy,

You will plainly see that the confrontation was nowhere near the truck. It is on the way to the back door of Trayvon's unit, as I said. Zim had to follow T to get there. I've been right all alkokng. you haven't been.
from Wikipedia "Shooting of Trayvon Martin"

Quote:

ter Zimmerman ended his call with police, a violent encounter took place between him and Martin. It ended with Zimmerman fatally shooting Martin 70 yards (65 m) from the rear door of the townhouse where Martin was staying.[54][Note 5]

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@MontereyJack,

That is incorrect. The site of the confrontation is pretty close to the truck, in the spot where he was when he stopped tailing Trayvon five minute earlier on the advice of the dispatcher.

70 yards from his back door is nowhere near his back yard.

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@oralloy,

It is not seversl blocks awsy. It is the same block. all the ay down. No obstructions, no cross streets just one unbroken block swiith a sidewalk, not a street running down the middle, and that lookslike it
s a sort of topo map and there's none of the shrubbery zim at one point lied t was hifing nehind until he came up. The oknly way zim could have gotten there was by following t,. so he did not heed the dispatcher's advice. It was on him. He murdered T. Good work, you just shot holes in your own case.

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@MontereyJack,

That is incorrect. There are at least two large building lengths between Trayvon's house and where the shooting took place.

The fact that the shooting took place where it did is evidence that Mr. Zimmerman did heed the dispatchers advice. Had he kept tailing Trayvon, the confrontation would have taken place in his back yard for real.

I know that progressives want to prevent people from defending themselves when black people kill them, but no. Self defense isn't murder.

My case is doing just fine. It remains a fact that the confrontation took place back where Mr. Zimmerman had stopped tailing Trayvon five minutes earlier on the advice of the dispatcher.

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@oralloy,

It is precisely on the way to his back door. He passed by Zim's truck, which was parked near the street to the front of the unit, so T had to run back to the back of the unit to escape Zim profiling him, The large buildings do not in any way imede the directsidewalk . They're presumably small multiunits rather than single occupancy townhouses. Zimmerman ended his call a presumbsbly at the blue triangle and had to follow T to get back to where the fight began. He was the instigator.As Wikipedia puts it in "The Shootong of Trayvon Martin' a violent encounter took place between him and Martin. It ended with Zimmerman fatally shooting Martin 70 yards (65 m) from the rear door of the townhouse where Martin was staying.[54][Note 5]

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@oralloy,

70 yartds is only about ten car lengths and it was a straight shot to T;s back doior, rather than a right angle turn and a FEW CAR LENGTHS TO THE TURN AND THEN MORE CAR LENGTHS TO THE TRUCK. THE POINT BEING, THE ONLY WAY ZIM COULD HAVE GOTTEN THERE WAS BY FOLLOWNG t., NOT RETURNING TO HIS TRUCK

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

70 yards is about ten car lengths

So a car is seven yards long?

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@oralloy,

a car length is the length of a car plus the space to park it, so yeah eah about seven yeards, give or take. You're welcome to go out with a tape measure and measure the distance between parking meters, if there are any in the podunkville you live in.

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@RABEL222,
You are the only person here who has a double digit IQ.

And you are the only person here who is lying.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

It is precisely on the way to his back door.

A little ways in that direction, yes. But not very far. It's the area where Mr. Zimmerman had stopped tailing Trayvon several minutes earlier on the advice of the dispatcher.

MontereyJack wrote:

He passed by Zim's truck, which was parked near the street to the front of the unit, so T had to run back to the back of the unit to escape Zim profiling him, The large buildings do not in any way impede the direct sidewalk. They're presumably small multiunits rather than single occupancy townhouses. Zimmerman ended his call a presumably at the blue triangle and had to follow T to get back to where the fight began.

Trayvon had had plenty of time to go home at that point, had he wanted to do so.

7:11:33 -- Mr. Zimmerman exits truck to follow Trayvon.
7:11:59 -- Mr. Zimmerman stops trailing after Travon on the dispatcher's advice, and instead heads towards the blue triangle on the map.
7:13:41 -- Mr. Zimmerman is at the blue triangle on the map instead of following Trayvon.
7:15:43 -- Trayvon hangs up his phone.
7:16:11 -- First 911 call about a fight, not in Trayvon's back yard, but way up in the area where Mr. Zimmerman had stopped tailing him.
7:16:55 -- Mr. Zimmerman fires his gun.

MontereyJack wrote:

He was the instigator.

That is incorrect. Trayvon ignored his opportunity to go home and instead he ended up back in the area where Mr. Zimmerman was.

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@oralloy,

pot and kettle again.

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@oralloy,

he asn't where he was when zim startedprofiling him. he clearly backtracked and was headed home to his back door when zim accosted him and baselessly shot him.

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@MontereyJack,

That is incorrect. Nearly four minutes elapsed from the time when Mr. Zimmerman stopped pursing him to the time when the fight started. Had Trayvon been headed to his back door, he would have been at his back door instead of up where Mr. Zimmerman was.

The shooting was hardly baseless. People have every right to defend themselves when black people try to murder them.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

pot and kettle again.

Wrong again. RABEL222 is the only person here with a double digit IQ.

And RABEL222 is the only person here who is lying.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

You're welcome to go out with a tape measure and measure the distance between parking meters, if there are any in the podunkville you live in.

I don't live in a town. I live way out in the middle of open farmland.

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I'll be back online later. I'll catch up with any replies then.

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@oralloy,

black people have every right to protect themselves when white people try tomurder them. And Zimmerman was the one with the gun.

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