Guns: how much longer will it take ....

Wrong again. The fight happened close to Mr. Zimmerman's truck, and nowhere near the back door of Trayvon's unit.

The back door to the unit where the fight happened was the guy who called 911 during the fight.

Had Trayvon been killed near the back door of his own unit, his father would not have needed to wait until morning to find out that his son was dead. If the fight and gunshot had not gotten his attention, all of the police activity around the dead body would certainly have been noticed.

nonsense. You have the lokcation totally wrong.

Reality isn't nonsense. Everyone could see that she was lying.

I have the location exactly right. The fight happened way back where Mr. Zimmerman had stopped tailing Trayvon five minutes earlier on the advice of the dispatcher.

YOU think she was lying. Which is as usual racist of you. She was under oath. Zim never was, and lied thru his teeth.

It was obvious that she was lying.

Telling the truth is not racist. I've pointed out to you before how these false accusations of racism make you look silly.

And let's not forget the reality that the location of the fight, way back where Mr. Zimmerman had stopped tailing Trayvon five minutes earlier, proves that Trayvon was the attacker.

Your argument rests in large part on where it ha[[ended and you have that location totally wrong. your timeline is also wrong. Wikipedia jhas a good one.

I have the location exactly right. The fight happened way back where Mr. Zimmerman stopped tailing Trayvon five minutes earlier on the advice of the dispatcher.

Trayvon was free to go home if he wished. He chose instead to try to murder the captain of the neighborhood watch.


My timeline is accurate too.

7:11:59 -- Dispatcher advises Mr. Zimmerman that tailing Trayvon is a very bad idea.

7:16:55 -- Mr. Zimmerman fires his gun.

That's just a few seconds shy of five minutes.

once again I replied while you reply was notbing nut a header, while you pondered how to distort realoty. Even without seeing it, it's safe to say it's nonsense.

wrong. You have to say that Zim followe Tray into his own backyard before he stopped chasing him since that's shwere the fight actually took place, noweher near Zim's truck. Again check what yhou call facts because they're not.

Not wrong. The fight happened near Mr. Zimmerman's truck, and nowhere near Trayvon's back yard.

The back door to the unit where the fight happened was the guy who called 911 during the fight.

Had Trayvon been killed near the back door of his own unit, his father would not have needed to wait until morning to find out that his son was dead. If the fight and gunshot had not gotten his attention, all of the police activity around the dead body would certainly have been noticed.

Trayvon had five minutes to go home if he wanted to. He chose instead to try to murder the captain of the neighborhood watch.

Facts are not a distortion of reality. Neither are they nonsense.

check the timeline and what happened in those intevening moments. Consider hokw long T was on his phkone and neither attacking nor being attacked. nOTICE HOW FAR AWAY THEY WERE FROM HIS TRUCK AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME ZIM NEEDED TO GET THERE. CONSIDER HOW SOKON z NEEDED TO HAVE PULLED HIS GUN AND SHOT HIM. cONSIDER HOW UNARMED t FELT WHEN some crazy ass person pulled a gun on him and how under FLA law he was perfectly justified in standing his ground and resis the prospect of being murdered by tryng to get the gun away from him.

They weren't very far at all away from Mr. Zimmerman's truck. The fight happened in the spot where Mr. Zimmerman was five minutes earlier when he stopped tailing Trayvon on the advice of the dispatcher.

Florida's stand your ground law does not say it is OK for Trayvon to come up to the captain of the neighborhood watch and start bashing his head against a concrete sidewalk.

your socallef=d facts are only yhour okpinion, biased as it is. Not facts. We can and do go round and round about this, but that's the fact. No matter how many times you claim you post facts, that remains untrue.

That is incorrect. It is a fact that the fight took place in the spot where, five minutes earlier, Mr. Zimmerman had stopped tailing Trayvon on the advice of the dispatcher.

It is a fact that it was Mr. Zimmerman's head that was being bashed against the concrete sidewalk.

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. That's all you'll get fokr any further noknsense you post.r from his truck shere it starte. The fight is also consistent with the testimony that Zim grabbed T and jerked him. And then my surmise whould be that the force Zim exterted overbalanced them and he fell backward and hit his head on the sidewal. The verymonor nature of his injuries is inconsistent with his story that T repeatedly bached his head on the sidewalk. zim's narrative soes not hang together. Nor do hyour so-caked facts.

The fight took place in the spot where Mr. Zimmerman had stopped tailing Trayvon five minutes earlier on the advice of the dispatcher.

That means Trayvon had five minutes to get home, but decided instead to try to murder the captain of the neighborhood watch.

blahblahblah Trayvon ran aroiund the block toward his back door, where Zim chased him and attacked him.

Wrong again. The fight happened where Mr. Zimmerman had stopped tailing Trayvon five minutes earlier on the advice of the dispatcher.

The back door to the unit where the fight happened was the guy who called 911 during the fight.

Had Trayvon been killed near the back door of his own unit, his father would not have needed to wait until morning to find out that his son was dead. If the fight and gunshot had not gotten his attention, all of the police activity around the dead body would certainly have been noticed.

A wise man once said that facts are stubborn things. He was right.

blah blah blah. His father and his fiancée were out to dinner.