Guns: how much longer will it take ....

@oralloy,

You're the dmearer.

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@oralloy,

Your entire career here is based on presenting your opinions as facts, when they are not.

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@MontereyJack,

Wrong again. You are the only person here with a history of presenting your opinions as facts.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

You're the dmearer.

I'm not sure what you are calling me, but I'm sure it isn't true.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

None of that characterization is fact. All twisted opinion.

That is incorrect. That Trayvon was a murdering thug who was killed in self defense is a fact. No opinion is involved in the statement.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

pretty much all of your speculations above of where, when and how above are inconsistent with the evidence.

Facts are not speculation.

And no. The evidence is very clear. The confrontation happened in the spot where Mr. Zimmerman had stopped tailing Trayvon five minutes earlier on the advice of the dispatcher.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

Yes, the jury that thought he got away with murder but couldn't prove it because he murdered the witness against him.

Self defense isn't murder.

The reason why they couldn't prove it was murder is because it wasn't murder.

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@oralloy,

It wasn't self defense. it was murder. The jury got to hear all the evidence and evaluate it. You didn't. And those informed jury members who went on record thought he got away with murder. And a lot of what you claim as fact seems to have come from the hordes of Zimmerman apologists online who came up with totally cockamamie theories, many of which you have been trying to peddle to us.

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@oralloy,

Thje confrontation happened in the communalk backyard of the unit Trayvon was staying at. Zim didn't stop chasing him. He continued, arrived out of breath and attacked Trayvon.
T: Why are you chasing me.
Z: what are you doing here., nearly simultaneous.
T: Get off me.
T was then jostled with such force the bluetooth device was knocked out of his ear. Zim was the attacker.

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@MontereyJack,

That is incorrect. That fight happened nowhere near Trayvon's backyard.

The fight happened back where Mr. Zimmerman had stopped tailing Trayvon five minutes earlier on the advice of the dispatcher.

That supposed phone testimony was obvious perjury. No one was gullible enough to believe it. And Mr. Zimmerman is now suing the Martin family for all of their ill-gotten gains for their part in that perjury.

https://apnews.com/6d1a808562080dac2d1ca9ce3b0dd416

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

It wasn't self defense. it was murder.

That is incorrect. Protecting yourself from someone who is trying to kill you is self defense, not murder.

MontereyJack wrote:

The jury got to hear all the evidence and evaluate it. You didn't. And those informed jury members who went on record thought he got away with murder.

The location of the fight is solid proof that it was self defense.

MontereyJack wrote:

And a lot of what you claim as fact seems to have come from the hordes of Zimmerman apologists online who came up with totally cockamamie theories, many of which you have been trying to peddle to us.

The location of the fight is not a theory. It is an established fact.

That it was Mr. Zimmerman's head that was being bashed against a concrete sidewalk is not a theory. It is an established fact.

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@oralloy,

Check your soc-called facts. They aren't. The fight took place in the communalk backyard of the block of townhouses where the backdoor of the unit where tryayvon was stayng was. It was far away from kany road where Zim's truck could have parked. Zim did not break off the chase. He had to have continued it to get to where he attacked Trayvon.
Trayvon tried to avoid his crasy pursuer. He ran away, Zim baselessly profiled him, piursued him, an\nd attacked him. Zim thought he'd be a heroand instead he became a murderer.

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@MontereyJack,

That is incorrect. The fight happened far away from Trayvon's door, and near Mr. Zimmerman's truck.

That means Mr. Zimmerman stopped tailing Trayvon when the dispatcher advised against it, and Trayvon attacked him.

Self defense is not murder. Mr. Zimmerman is very much a hero.

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@oralloy,

He's a lokt like trump.. Lies and then sues when his lies trip him up.

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@MontereyJack,

It wasn't Mr. Zimmerman who lied. The perjury came from the phony phone call witness.

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@oralloy,

No it did not. It was near the BACk door of Trayvon's unit, in the middle of a large grassy backyard with a SIDEWALK not a street running down it, far awy formZim's truck parked on a street.

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@oralloy,

still another conspiracy theory.

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@MontereyJack,

Reality is not a conspiracy theory. That the witness was lying was obvious to everyone.

And then there is the fact that the evidence actually shows that Trayvon was the attacker.

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@oralloy,

obvious to your warped erceptiion, not to a neutral observer. She was under oath, Zim never was. He could lie with impunity and did.

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@MontereyJack,

No, it was obvious to everyone that she was lying.

And then there is the fact that the location of the fight proves that Trayvon was the attacker.

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