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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 12 May, 2020 10:38 am
It just cracks me up no end to see Ollie peddling that "my IQ ia 170" bullshit.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 12 May, 2020 10:40 am
@Setanta,
No BS. I really am vastly smarter than you are.

What I don't get is why this bothers you so much.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 12 May, 2020 10:42 am
@oralloy,
so the question is, why then are your posts so dumb?
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 12 May, 2020 10:46 am
@MontereyJack,
They aren't. It is just inconvenient to progressives that I frequently point out facts and reality.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 12 May, 2020 10:55 am
@oralloy,
sets cleaned your clock so many times that Ill bet its a "perpetual motion machine" by now.

You have too many verbal tells when you are in too deep.

I have fun with yourTrumpy boasts of infallibility and intelligence. Theyre funny but are symptomatic of a sad life of early rejection. (Ps, what age were you starting college?)

Just this AM I watched your visual posts about Trumps inauguration celebration in the Mall.
You compared Trump with Trump , but not with Obama.(That was Trumps lie) Trumps lie was that "he had the biggest attendance to the swearing- in ceremony of any president"> It wasnt about some "Deep state photographer who photo-shopped and reduced his attendance by camera tricks"

There was no comparison twixt Trump and Obama;s first inauguration. Obamas thick crowd went all the way back to the Washington Monument. Trump had empty bleachers, near the tidal pool.
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 12 May, 2020 11:02 am
@oralloy,
It doesn't bother me--it affords me a great deal of entertainment when I see the uneducated drivel you post, and then defend with that bullshit story about your "IQ." As I once pointed out in great detail, the Stanford-Binet test does not indicated intelligence, it indicates enculturation. That's exactly what Binet wanted when he created the test.

Keep 'em coming, Einstein, I can always use a good laugh.
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 12 May, 2020 11:21 am
In the first place, I think you're lying. In the United States, "IQ" tests are administered in high school. Your story about a professor ordering such a test because you were always right (one of your more pathetic fantasies) has the unmistakable stench of bullshit. Here are some articles on the subject, read 'em and weep, slick:

IQ scores not accurate marker of intelligence, study shows

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Could IQ scores be a false indicator of intelligence?

Researchers have determined in the largest online study on the intelligence quotient (IQ) that results from the test may not exactly show how smart someone is.

"When we looked at the data, the bottom line is the whole concept of IQ -- or of you having a higher IQ than me -- is a myth," Dr. Adrian Owen, the study's senior investigator and the Canada Excellence Research Chair in Cognitive Neuroscience and Imaging at the university's Brain and Mind Institute said to the Toronto Star. "There is no such thing as a single measure of IQ or a measure of general intelligence."


What Does IQ Really Measure?

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Kids who score higher on IQ tests will, on average, go on to do better in conventional measures of success in life: academic achievement, economic success, even greater health, and longevity. Is that because they are more intelligent? Not necessarily. New research concludes that IQ scores are partly a measure of how motivated a child is to do well on the test. And harnessing that motivation might be as important to later success as so-called native intelligence.


What is IQ — and how much does it matter?

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IQ tests have many different purposes, notes Joel Schneider. He is a psychologist at Illinois State University in Normal. Some IQ tests have been designed to assess children at specific ages. Some are for adults. And some have been designed for people with particular disabilities.

But any of these tests will tend to work well only for people who share a similar cultural or social upbringing. “In the United States,” for instance, “a person who has no idea who George Washington was probably has lower-than-average intelligence,” Schneider says. “In Japan, not knowing who Washington was reveals very little about the person’s intelligence.”
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 12 May, 2020 11:31 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
sets claned your clock so many times that Ill bet its a prpetual motion machine by now.

You cannot provide a single example of anything of the sort ever happening.

You have a big mouth, but you're all talk. You can't back up anything that you say about me.


farmerman wrote:
You have too many verbal tells when you are in too deep.

You are confused. I'm never in too deep.


farmerman wrote:
I have fun with your Trumpy boasts of infallibility and intelligence.

I'm sure that the Dunning-Kruger effect prevents you from noticing the fact that you aren't capable of pointing out any errors in my posts.


farmerman wrote:
Just this AM I watched your visual posts about Trumps inauguration celebration in the Mall.

Good for you. Were you able to understand what I was saying, or did my point sail way over your head?


farmerman wrote:
You compared Trump with Trump,

I compared "the media's lies about Mr. Trump" with "the truth about Mr. Trump".


farmerman wrote:
but not with Obama.

Very good. Obama was not part of my comparison. You were able to understand a little bit at least.


farmerman wrote:
(That was Trumps lie) Trumps lie was that "he had the biggest attendance to the swearing- in ceremony of any president"> It wasnt about some "Deep state photographer who photo-shopped and reduced his attendance by camera tricks"

Meh. Progressives always say that everything is a lie.


farmerman wrote:
There was no comparison twixt Trump and Obama's first inauguration. Obamas thick crowd went all the way back to the Washington Monument.

Good for Obama I guess. But so what?


farmerman wrote:
Trump had empty bleachers, near the tidal pool.

I'm not sure where these bleachers are that you are talking about. But given the media's campaign of misinformation, note that they might not have actually been empty.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 12 May, 2020 11:32 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
It doesn't bother me--it affords me a great deal of entertainment when I see the uneducated drivel you post,

Note your perpetual inability to ever point out anything that I am wrong about no matter how desperately you try.


Setanta wrote:
and then defend with that bullshit story about your "IQ."

The fact that I am vastly more intelligent than you are is not BS. That's basic reality.


Setanta wrote:
As I once pointed out in great detail, the Stanford-Binet test does not indicated intelligence, it indicates enculturation. That's exactly what Binet wanted when he created the test.

So what?

Like I told you in my previous reply, not all IQ tests are so flawed.


Setanta wrote:
Keep 'em coming, Einstein, I can always use a good laugh.

Laughing at your intellectual betters won't change your position on the intellectual totem pole.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 12 May, 2020 11:46 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
In the first place, I think you're lying.

Your disbelief in reality doesn't actually change reality.


Setanta wrote:
In the United States, "IQ" tests are administered in high school.

People in the US can take IQ tests at any age.


Setanta wrote:
Your story about a professor ordering such a test because you were always right

That isn't even close to what I said. Ordering a test???

He asked me if I was interested in taking the test, and then tested me himself in his office when I was willing to be tested.

I also didn't say that I was always right, although I am in fact almost always right.

What I said that I was taking two years of classes at once, NOT studying even a little bit, getting straight As, and routinely correcting professors on all the errors they made.


Setanta wrote:
(one of your more pathetic fantasies) has the unmistakable stench of bullshit.

You are overlooking the fact that what is impossible for someone like you is trivially easy for someone like me.

You should have seen my performance in high school chemistry. That story is even better, although it didn't lead to an IQ test.


Setanta wrote:
Here are some articles on the subject, read 'em and weep, slick:

You've pointed out these sort of sour grapes articles before. I'm sure they make low-IQ people feel better about themselves.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 12 May, 2020 01:52 pm
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 12 May, 2020 08:17 pm
Black woman shot and killed after Kentucky police entered her home as she slept, family says
A black woman was asleep in her Louisville, Kentucky, home when three police officers forced their way inside, "blindly fired" and killed her, according to a lawsuit filed by the woman's family. Breonna Taylor, an EMT worker, died on March 13 after officers with the Louisville Metro Police Department executed a search warrant at the wrong home, the suit states.

The officers were looking for a suspect who lived in a different part of the city and was already in police custody after he was arrested earlier.

The lawsuit states that Taylor and her boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, were asleep in the bedroom when police in plain clothes and unmarked vehicles arrived at the house around 12:30 a.m. The three officers entered Taylor's home "without knocking and without announcing themselves as police officers," the suit states.

The lawsuit says Taylor and Walker woke up and thought criminals were breaking in. Walker called 911 and police said he opened fire (at the unknown intruders) and shot an officer. The suit states that Walker had a license to carry and kept firearms in the home for protection.

"The police then proceeded to spray gunfire into the residence with a total disregard for the value of human life," the lawsuit alleges. "Shots were blindly fired by the officers all throughout Breonna's home." Taylor, 26, was shot eight times and died. Walker, 27, was arrested and charged with attempted murder on a police officer.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/black-woman-shot-killed-after-kentucky-police-entered-her-home-n1205651
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 12 May, 2020 08:56 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Black woman shot and killed after Kentucky police entered her home as she slept, family says
A black woman was asleep in her Louisville, Kentucky, home when three police officers forced their way inside, "blindly fired" and killed her, according to a lawsuit filed by the woman's family. Breonna Taylor, an EMT worker, died on March 13 after officers with the Louisville Metro Police Department executed a search warrant at the wrong home, the suit states.

Is supposed to be a black thing? Anymore details?

You left the part out about

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Ben Crump, who is also representing the family of Ahmaud Arbery, the black man in Georgia who died on Feb. 23 after being pursued and shot by two white men.

Race baiting is never out of the question. All it does is make people victims vicariously, accompanied with virtue signaling from one who only knows half the facts.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 13 May, 2020 12:19 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
You left the part out about
Quote:
Ben Crump, who is also representing the family of Ahmaud Arbery, the black man in Georgia who died on Feb. 23 after being pursued and shot by two white men.

Race baiting is never out of the question. All it does is make people victims vicariously, accompanied with virtue signaling from one who only knows half the facts.

Race baiting indeed. It is clear from the video of the incident that the jogger charges around the front of the truck and attacks Travis McMichael, and it takes two shotgun blasts to the chest to make the jogger back off his attack.

The murder charges against Travis and Gregory McMichael are based on a loophole in Georgia law that says it is aggravated assault (a felony) to brandish a weapon. Any death connected to a felony can be prosecuted as murder under Georgia law.

Without that loophole, chasing down and confronting that jogger in the middle of the street would be charged as reckless conduct (a misdemeanor). A death connected to a misdemeanor is only involuntary manslaughter under Georgia law.

There is now a push to close this loophole:

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/georgia-panel-approves-bill-aiming-make-legal-brandish-gun/Oe2x0xPUTKP99PueauFWdI/

https://www.ajc.com/news/local/opinion-gun-bill-would-let-the-brandishing-begin-meaning-what/Xj3AnpcBuOtEdRH17BZXeP/

I do not have any information whether it will be made retroactive if passed into law so that it can reduce the charges against Travis and Gregory McMichael. However given the way the jogger was attacking them, murder charges are clearly wildly inappropriate.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 14 May, 2020 07:20 am
Guns stores ignore illegal government orders, continue to sell guns to a free people:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/05/14/gun-shops-flouted-state-coronavirus-closures-fueling-sales-boom/3115968001/
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vikorr
 
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Reply Thu 14 May, 2020 04:27 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Out of curiosity (regarding the woman who was killed when police did executed a search warrant at the wrong address) - don't US Police officers all have body worn videos? I checked some news sites but didn't find anything about that.

It is an awful tragedy for everyone involved.
vikorr
 
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Reply Thu 14 May, 2020 04:49 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Race baiting indeed. It is clear from the video of the incident that the jogger charges around the front of the truck and attacks Travis McMichael, and it takes two shotgun blasts to the chest to make the jogger back off his attack.
"The McMichaels told police they thought Arbery was a burglary suspect, so they armed themselves and followed him...intending to conduct a citizens arrest...They told police that Arbery attacked them after one of them got out of the truck with a shotgun

Then we have a video....the video shows a black man jogging. His gate is that of casual jogging. He's on a jogging path....

...now obviously being stalked by two white guys (who resemble rednecks), armed with (at least one shotgun) firearms. The truck pulls up and out hops a redneck armed with a shotgun staring at you...

....In the position of the black jogger, I'd be terrified for my life. The conclusion I would form in such circumstances is the guy is out to kill me. And it's not a situation where I would think "I'll just ask him to make sure that's the case' (only an idiot would wait this long in such a circumstance). You should be allowed to defend your life in such circumstances...

...And there's little point in trying to outrun a shotgun but there is a point (if you are close enough) to try and get the shotgun away from your stalker....

....which the video shows him trying to do.

Utterly understandable on the part of the victim (the jogger, in case it isn't clear). The freedom to defend ones life I think you call it.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 14 May, 2020 05:42 pm
@vikorr,
I concur with your analysis.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 14 May, 2020 05:43 pm
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:
Out of curiosity (regarding the woman who was killed when police did executed a search warrant at the wrong address) - don't US Police officers all have body worn videos? I checked some news sites but didn't find anything about that.

"Louisville Police Department Chief Steve Conrad said at a press conference after the shooting that none of the officers who worked with their criminal interdiction unit wore a body camera."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/breonna-taylor-kentucky-emt-allegedly-killed-police-executing/story?id=70657850


vikorr wrote:
It is an awful tragedy for everyone involved.

This is why when we where talking about this sort of thing a couple years ago I said that these tactics where the police burst into houses without warning need to be ended.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 14 May, 2020 05:53 pm
@vikorr,
Quote:
...now obviously being stalked by two white guys (who resemble rednecks), armed with (at least one shotgun) firearms.

You know what is missing? Their (two white guys) social media posts. Is there anything racist in any of those? What about friends, do they think these guys are racist?

I think if there was any of that I think it would be out there.

 

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