Guns: how much longer will it take ....

A simplistic answer not particularly true. A magazine change only takes a second or two and you're set to go again. It's still possible to get 30 aimed shots with ar15 style weapon or semiauto handguns in the low 20 seconds range with 5 shot capacity detachable magazines.

not the point. read joint's screedtyhat was an answer to.

Instead, Congress, in its toady move to its gun lobbly masters, compromised and added the other list of BS cosmetic items that really had little to do with the actual rate of fire of these guns.

When the law was put in the books, it required that 2 or more of these cosmetic gizmos be added to the really dangerous aspects of semi autos with large cap ammo holders. That was a total sell out. Congress defined whats dangerous on its own (Didnt need rocket surgery). ALL that other bullshit was added by these NRA douche bags and gun mfr huucksters.

Thats the sad part, you guys are arguing about pistol grips and youve already had the main point despite cosmetic appearances of a "scary looking gun". The point is that guns that can hold a lotta ammo and fire fast are what needs control PERIOD.

Oral argues pitol grippage just to avert our yes from the main feature in discussion.

Control large cap ammo holding along with rapid fir, not "decoration"

Semi autos arent going away soon, maybe by the end of this century (if we keep killing our kids en masse and the gun lobby keeps trying to make us think they are doing something about it besides just selling more guns.)

Id be ecstatic if we could get rid of big clips, large mags, and rapid fire (make it so you cpuld only hve one of these on a gun) rapid fire? ok limit it to 5 shells like it is for most states hunting rifles. Want a big clip? then make the gun a bolt action or pump.

PLEASE TRY TO BECOME PART OF A SOLUTION< DONT REMAIN SOME KIND OF CLUELESS DICKHEADS bought and owned by NRA and gun manufacturers.

your and the other gun nuts cheap lying bull shyt.

It's still possible to get 30 aimed shots with ar15 style weapon or semiauto handguns in the low 20 seconds range with 5 shot capacity detachable magazines.

It's inherent in the deadly nature of the gun, far more deadly capability far in excess of any reasonable justification for self-defense

You're the one who always undermines attempts to establish such controls

Im quite active, you? (I think youre just a phony)

and you, a toady of the NRA and its bunch of puppetmaster gun mfrs do NOTHING but sit and , like our dickhed pres, tryto sound like victims.

with Oral, its never necessary because he loads up with invective and victimhood and expects somebody to confuse that with debate.

If you want an answer, ask an intelligent question.

**** your pistol grips

Ive got no dog in your mega- page argument about all that ****.

Im quite active,

you?

I think youre just a phony

and you, a toady of the NRA

and its bunch of puppetmaster gun mfrs

do NOTHING but sit and , like our dickhed pres, tryto sound like victims.

with Oral, its never necessary because he loads up with invective and victimhood and expects somebody to confuse that with debate.

You guys tak the time whenever I or anyone post n intelligent question or post and try to stoke up the insults in serietem fashion.

Do the best you can, I think most people dont GAF about your "self announced gun expertise"
Get me someone who knows what the **** hes talking about, at least gunga snake understood about gun usage.