Guns: how much longer will it take ....

facts are facts are facts.

The really sad thing is that all that cosmetic stuff was added to the early bill in Congress to basically WATER DOWN the impact of making rapid fire (semi-s) able to hold large clips or large cap magazine illegal or difficult to acquire. It would have added (originally) those guns to the 1935 law that defined "dangerous weapons". Instead, Congress, in its toady move to its gun lobbly masters, compromised and added the other list of BS cosmetic items that really had little to do with the actual rate of fire of these guns.

When the law was put in the books, it required that 2 or more of these cosmetic gizmos be added to the really dangerous aspects of semi autos with large cap ammo holders. That was a total sell out. Congress defined whats dangerous on its own (Didnt need rocket surgery). ALL that other bullshit was added by these NRA douche bags and gun mfr huucksters.

Thats the sad part, you guys are arguing about pistol grips and youve already had the main point despite cosmetic appearances of a "scary looking gun". The point is that guns that can hold a lotta ammo and fire fast are what needs control PERIOD. Oral argues pitol grippage just to avert our yes from the main feature in discussion. Control large cap ammo holding along with rapid fir, not "decoration"

Ive got semi -auto 2 (.22;s), and a hornet .228 varmint gun that are just like any other saddle rifle , and these are just a dangerous as an AR-15 or any milspec design of semi-auto scary gun.

I can stick a banana clip on my hornet or LR .22 and fire just as fast and accurately as an AR or any other of the milspec wannabees. Thats what I dont like. If 5 shells dont get you the game that you want, (or 10- in clip available only at the gun range) then youre potentially doing something stupid with a rifle.

Semi autos arent going away soon, maybe by the end of this century (if we keep killing our kids en masse and the gun lobby keeps trying to make us think they are doing something about it besides just selling more guns.) Id be ecstatic if we could get rid of big clips, large mags, and rapid fire (make it so you cpuld only hve one of these on a gun) rapid fire? ok limit it to 5 shells like it is for most states hunting rifles. Want a big clip? then make the gun a bolt action or pump.

Kids are killing kids. Gangs not legal gun owners.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/251884/murder-offenders-in-the-us-by-age/

SFW, does age of the murderer confer some kind of pass?
You guys really are laughable (if it werent such a national tragedy). You keep trying to gin up some excuse as if its a minor series of incidents and not a crime spree.
BFD as to whether its someone over or under 18 who commits murder.

PLEASE TRY TO BECOME PART OF A SOLUTION< DONT REMAIN SOME KIND OF CLUELESS DICKHEADS bought and owned by NRA and gun manufacturers.

So how old was Nik Cruz when he shot up parkland? What gang did he belong to? Your usual misleading bs.

No it shows the majority are the age of urban gang members.


Taking the rights of law abiding citizens and businesses is not the solution.

Which bill was that?


Yeah, but do these rifles have pistol grips?

Isent it infuriating that the really smart ones can see through your and the other gun nuts cheap lying bull shyt.

There are really smart ones here? Could have fooled me.

the 1992 "temp" bill on milspec firearms control.

Which proves to me that you make up your mind without the benefit of fact , and you do that almost always.

so that gives THEM a pass in your mind??
Trying to quantitate a point by comparing equally horrid examples in order to remove one from concern means that your abilities at reasoning are limited

What fact will deprive law abiding people and businesses of their rights?

Where the Hell you get that from. I said nothing like that. We do not have a gun problem we have a gang problem, we have sanctuary cities that harbor gun toting illegals. Clean up those cities, keeping in mind, it is impossible to stop crazy or evil.

wow, you dont even rad what you post and the way you xpres yourself. You often make these dumass comparisons for some reason that is apparent to many that all you wish to do is "quiet concerns" over someone elses offering in these discussions.

Many have often aid to you, "so whats the important point you wish to make?"

I've told you before that your beef is with magazine size. Perhaps you could help convince the other idiots here that the pistol-grip does not make a rifle especially dangerous.

I asked you for a fact that justifies taking rights away. That would make a point. Do you have one?

that was 1994 assault weapons act. It ""sundowned" a few years after passage via the USSC.

not the point. read joint's screedtyhat was an answer to.