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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2019 11:35 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Presumably once this frivolous lawsuit fails, Remington will be able to recoup their legal fees by seizing the homes and retirement accounts of the people who sued them.

Meanwhile a hedge fund has agreed to become a major lender to Remington:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-remington-whitebox-exclusive/exclusive-hedge-fund-whitebox-places-big-bet-on-gunmaker-remington-idUSKBN1XL17B
McGentrix
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2019 11:43 am
@Walter Hinteler,
This is complete and utter bullshit. Imagine the precedent this can set. Subaru is advertised as a safe car. If someone gets killed in a Subaru in an accident,, can they sue Subaru?
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2019 11:55 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
The NRA called the lawsuit "company-killing".


The tobacco companies fared fairly well after their lawsuits.
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hightor
 
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Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2019 12:15 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
If someone gets killed in a Subaru in an accident,, can they sue Subaru?

Sure. Witness the recent trouble with the faulty Takata airbags. In fatal auto accidents an investigation is made to determine whether the death is due to operator error or a mechanical defect.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2019 12:25 pm
@hightor,
"Suing over an actual mechanical defect" is a bit different from "suing because someone died after Subaru was advertised as being safe."
hightor
 
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Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2019 12:28 pm
@oralloy,
Not if the defect is in the safety system.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2019 12:30 pm
@hightor,
This isn't a lawsuit over a defect. This is a lawsuit about advertising claims. There is no defect.
hightor
 
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Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2019 12:36 pm
@oralloy,
Sure. So if a car advertised as being "safe" is involved in a fatal accident an investigation will seek to determine if the safety system is defective. A car advertised as "safe" doesn't mean it's promising total invulnerability.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2019 12:38 pm
@hightor,
The lawsuit against Remington is like suing Subaru for a non-defective car because it did not provide total invulnerability.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2019 12:54 pm
@oralloy,
At least you get it.
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revelette3
 
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Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2019 01:08 pm
Remington violated the exceptions in the 2005 law which protects firearms manufacturers.

Quote:
The case tests the reach of a 2005 law passed by Congress to protect firearms manufacturers from being held liable for crimes committed by gun purchasers. That law was hailed by the National Rifle Association, but it included exceptions, including one for violating rules related to marketing and advertising.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/11/12/supreme-court-sandy-hook-lawsuit-gun-manufacturer-proceed/2565344001/
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2019 01:24 pm
@revelette3,
revelette3 wrote:
Remington violated the exceptions in the 2005 law which protects firearms manufacturers.

No they didn't. The idea that their advertising was responsible for this carnage is ludicrous.

When this frivolous lawsuit finally fails, Remington needs to seize these people's assets to recoup their legal costs.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2019 01:32 pm
@oralloy,
Not frivolous. No legal basis to srize assets. Your approval of gun violence dis qualifies you for rational discussion.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2019 01:36 pm
@MontereyJack,
Wrong again. Suing over baseless claims is frivolous.

And the law specifically allows gun manufacturers to seize the assets of people who make frivolous lawsuits against them, to recoup their legal costs.

You cannot provide any examples of irrationality in my posts.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2019 01:38 pm
@oralloy,
That scotus let the case proceed is a good argument its not frivolous. Hope they get a well deserved multi million dollar win against remington.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2019 01:45 pm
@oralloy,
Most of your postssuffer from irrationality or illogic opr both. If that is in fact shielding gun makers from the fatal consequences of their actions its yet another argument to vote nra lackeys lut in 2020.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2019 01:47 pm
@MontereyJack,
You cannot provide any examples of irrationality or illogic in any of my posts.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2019 01:49 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
That scotus let the case proceed is a good argument its not frivolous.

That the claim is absurd is a good argument that the case is frivolous.


MontereyJack wrote:
Hope they get a well deserved multi million dollar win against remington.

That progressives hope for injustice is a good argument for shipping all progressives down to Guantanamo so they can't bother any Americans with their hate.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2019 02:36 pm
@oralloy,
But irrationally obvious lies abound by you and your followers.
Baldimo
 
  0  
Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2019 02:45 pm
@MontereyJack,
You agree with this SC ruling, but if they rule against NY and support the Rights of citizens, are you going to claim it was wrong ruling?
 

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