Guns: how much longer will it take ....

Its your claim. Its never been ours.
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Soup nazis are nutballs.

No new gun laws for you!

Have fun helplessly wringing your hands while you watch the massacres continue unabated.

Nonsense. Thats ggthe way the feds ans stste legislaturs use the language. Everyone knows what it means. I go with usage you just go with meaningless straw men.

Wrong again. "Laws outlawing pistol grips on semi-auto rifles" are all about "banning pistol grips on semi-auto rifles".

Criticizing your laws for what they actually do is not a straw man argument.

Wrong again. This is a direct quote:

"A pistol grip allows for a more ergonomic grip on the weapon allowing for more accurate shooting. Better accuracy increases the lethality in these weapons."

http://able2know.org/topic/131081-334#post-6902626

That is incorrect. Your "attempts to ban pistol grips on semi-auto rifles" are "attempts to ban pistol grips on semi-auto rifles".



"Outlawing all semi-auto rifles with pistol grips on them" is "banning pistol grips on semi-auto rifles".



The fact that Democrats lie about what their laws do does not change the reality that their laws are all about banning pistol grips on semi-auto rifles.



Correctly pointing out what you are actually fighting to pass into law is not a red herring.

Most of my free time maybe.



Each is wonderful in its own unique way.



Nonsense! My love of freedom makes perfect sense in the real world.

These supposed assault weapon laws have nothing to do with "assault weapons" and everything to do with "pistol grips on ordinary hunting rifles".

You don't love freedom, you love throwing the word about, but it's not something you want to share, or even really experience.

And it's a word that takes on very sinister overtones when the far right express it.



Banned neo Nazi Free German Workers Party logo.

That is incorrect. I am very fond of freedom, and am glad that I experience it.

I'd be happy if other parts of the world shared in America's freedom. But I don't want to impose this freedom on them against their will if they say that they don't want it.

America had the M1 Garand in WWII:

"The M1 Garand is a .30-06 caliber semi-automatic rifle that was the standard U.S. service rifle during World War II and the Korean War and also saw limited service during the Vietnam War."

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand


Note:

"Production difficulties delayed deliveries to the Army until September 1937. Machine production began at Springfield Armory that month at a rate of ten rifles per day,[24] and reached an output of 100 per day within two years. Despite going into production status, design issues were not at an end. The barrel, gas cylinder, and front sight assembly were redesigned and entered production in early 1940. Existing "gas-trap" rifles were recalled and retrofitted, mirroring problems with the earlier M1903 Springfield rifle that also had to be recalled and reworked approximately three years into production and foreshadowing rework of the M16 rifle at a similar point in its development. Production of the Garand increased in 1940 despite these difficulties,[25] reaching 600 a day by 10 January 1941,[18] and the Army was fully equipped by the end of 1941.[22]"

Whoa there, buddy, you need to produce something to validate your apprehension concerning folding stocks. Like maybe some law enforcement figure saying something after a shooting like, "If it weren't for the folding stock on that damned AR-15, lives would have been saved."

And when was the last time--after a mass shooting--you heard anyone say something to the effect that the detrimental factor in the shooting was the pistol grip? Nevertheless, you believe that the pistol grip causes more loss of life. Do you honestly believe that someone using a semiautomatic rifle without a pistol grip is going to kill less people because of the lack of a pistol grip. You must think that they have magical powers.
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You are the one who believes that folding stocks and pistol grips increase the lethality of a semiautomatic rifle. So why don't follow up your belief with answers to the questions that I just put to you?

Yeah, I recall that conversation. I asked you to tell me the difference between an assault rifle and an assault weapon. You failed to do so. I also asked you to tell me the difference between an assault weapon and an assault style weapon. You failed to do so. That's the reality of our conversation. You failed to explain your position, and instead referred me to the definition concocted by those who also failed to explain their position.

The specific class of gun that uninformed people call "assault weapons" refers to semiautomatic guns. And that is an inaccurate designation. The term "assault weapon" was created in order to expand the list of guns that some want banned. Your acquiescence to whatever comes out of a legal authority's mouth basically amounts to insisting it is so because daddy said. And your insistence that I shouldn't have an AR-15 is basically you trying to extend that parent-child relationship you have with authority onto me. No thanks, I don't bend over because someone tells me to.

So, one more time: An assault rifle has a select-fire option. An assault STYLE rifle does not have a select-fire option. If a rifle is not select-fire, then it is called a semiautomatic rifle, and NOT an assault rifle. So, if you believe that a semiautomatic rifle is an assault rifle by virtue of its appearance and despite its lack of select-fire capability, then you believe that style equals function. But style does not equal function. You may be inclined to believe that it does because someone told you to think that it does, but don't expect others to share your willingness to bend over so easily.

It's much like your willingness to repeat the bullshit statement that the AR-15 is the favored weapon of mass shooters just because you heard someone say it, and then failed to do the minimum research to find out if it was true. And your expect to be taken seriously after demonstrating such mindlessness?

This video helps explain what you and the rest of the knowledgeable gun people have been saying. He also uses the same exact gun I have been asking people about who couldn't answer a simple question, AR15 vs Ruger Ranch Rifle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J29rdeeDSYk

I don't know the rational for including bayonet mounts in the description of a semi-automatic assault weapon in the Federal Assault Weapons Ban.

That goes for all of the items they included on the original ban list. There was a BB gun on the original ban list because it looked scary.

Yeah, that about sums it up. When you think about it, their inability to answer your question is kind of like racism, but applied to guns instead of people.

Your opinion is duly noted.

@Glenn,
@Glenn,

I've already addressed your straw man arguments. You're merely being redundant.