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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 23 Aug, 2019 12:24 pm
@izzythepush,
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Again with the explaining.

You don't explain anything, you give rhetoric, with false facts.

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This is Able2Know.com, you'd be better suited to FuckedifIknow.com.

Says the guy who brands disagreements as bigotry. You are doing it again, bigot much?

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It's hardly rocket science. If you're spending an extra $48million on safeguarding your schools from the NRA your children are put at a disadvantage.

They aren't spending extra anything, this proves you don't understand what the article you posted as actually talking about, the NRA was never mentioned. They were already rebuilding the school, likely replacing an older one with a newer and bigger one. They only included design elements to make school shootings less deadly or prevent them in the first place by denying access to the shooters. You can't be this dense can you?

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Other developed countries don't need to waste money on measures like that so the money can be spent on other things, like paying teacher's salaries.

No money is being wasted, they were replacing an older school. The money was already being spent, they included unique design elements into the building and other security features. Why don't you want schools secure?

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It's not as if you're ahead of the field academically, if you were I wouldn't have to explain the flaming obvious to you.

Our nation does indeed have issues with our schools and learning. It has nothing to do with money, we spend more than other nations, to include the UK. It has to do with lowering standards and teachers unions.

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When I was at college we hard a student exchange with American universities. The ones that came over here were in their third year, but put in with the freshers, and even then they had trouble.

I'd only just left school and two weeks into the course I had American students at least three years older than me who had already been at university for two years asking me how to write a ******* essay!

Nice anecdote that really has no meaning to the discussion, other than for you to insult US students. You are doing the bigot thing again.




izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 23 Aug, 2019 01:11 pm
@Glennn,
Glennn wrote:

Really? Which members of the NRA have shot up some schools?


All of them, their stance is what enables mass shootings, they're all culpable.

I thought I'd made myself clear, but you seem to be having trouble with that concept.

I don't have to keep explaining things on other threads.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 23 Aug, 2019 06:59 pm
@izzythepush,
You cannot show any case of a member of the NRA shooting up a school.

You cannot link any stance of the NRA to any mass shooting.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 23 Aug, 2019 07:00 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
If you're spending an extra $48million on safeguarding your schools from the NRA

The schools are not being protected from the NRA. The NRA is not a threat to them.

The NRA is a threat only to progressives who want to have fun violating people's civil liberties.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 23 Aug, 2019 07:01 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
You still don't get it. You don't think, you don't reason,

You cannot point out any errors in my logic.


izzythepush wrote:
you just reset and repeat.

When you repeat untrue statements, I repeat my corrections of your untrue statements.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 23 Aug, 2019 07:51 pm
@izzythepush,
Like Woody Allen? He married his adopted daughter
McGentrix
 
  -1  
Reply Fri 23 Aug, 2019 07:53 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

One of these days you'll need to invest in an education. Every one of your "retorts" are factually incorrect.


Again, ownership of weapons is an assumed right not explicitly guaranteed by any of the Bill of rights, like freedom of the press, religion, free speech, vote, association, movement etc.

You haven't a clue about what a well regulated militia is, do you?


Pretty sure it is you who does not get the 2nd amendment.

oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 23 Aug, 2019 08:03 pm
@McGentrix,
I see that I should have waited for him to finish editing before I replied.

Oh well. I'll just reply to the rest of his post now.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 23 Aug, 2019 08:04 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
Again, ownership of weapons is an assumed right not explicitly guaranteed by any of the Bill of rights, like freedom of the press, religion, free speech, vote, association, movement etc.

That is incorrect. The right to keep and bear arms is explicitly guaranteed in the Second Amendment.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
You haven't a clue about what a well regulated militia is, do you?

Actually yes I do. The term was used to refer to a militia that had trained sufficiently enough so that they could fight as a single coherent unit instead of fighting as a bunch of random individuals.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Fri 23 Aug, 2019 08:44 pm
@oralloy,
In order to drive s car one has to prove to the state their capable of driving one. Why is it so hard for you to see that the same holds true for guns. All your second amendment b s isent rational. The supreme court hasent said that government can't regulate it for the protection of its citizens. All you gun nuts know this and all your arguments are b s.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 23 Aug, 2019 08:56 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:
In order to drive s car one has to prove to the state their capable of driving one. Why is it so hard for you to see that the same holds true for guns.

What makes you think that I don't see this?


RABEL222 wrote:
All your second amendment b s isent rational.

How come you cannot point out any flaws in my logic then?


RABEL222 wrote:
The supreme court hasent said that government can't regulate it for the protection of its citizens.

I'm glad you agree with me. I've been saying that for a long time.


RABEL222 wrote:
All you gun nuts know this

Name-calling is a poor substitute for facts and logic.


RABEL222 wrote:
and all your arguments are b s.

How come you cannot point out any errors in our arguments?
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 23 Aug, 2019 09:13 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Look who's back... just in time for the next election. More bs to spread?
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 23 Aug, 2019 09:16 pm
@RABEL222,
Since when do we have to prove anything to use a constitutional right?
Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 23 Aug, 2019 11:56 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

Since when do we have to prove anything to use a constitutional right?

Since 1776, I would think.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2019 01:35 am
@McGentrix,
He is a creep, but even Allen didn't shag her when she was 13.

You're right though, he should be locked up too, at least then he won't be able to make any more shitawful films.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2019 02:01 am
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In the last three weeks US authorities have arrested at least 28 people accused of threatening acts of mass violence. What's behind this surge and could they all be convicted?

The threats ranged from posts on social media and video gaming sites to verbal comments to colleagues and friends. In at least two cases, suspects sent text messages to ex-partners. Hoards of weapons were also found in some cases.

The FBI won't say what is behind the steep bump in apprehensions, some carried out by that agency, others by local police. It's not clear if it marks a growth in threats or simply a rise in awareness and tip-offs.

But former FBI boss Andrew McCabe said on Friday there was undoubtedly a "renewed awareness" focused on the sort of threats that a few months ago might have been ignored by investigators mindful of the right to free speech as enshrined in the US Constitution.

The first amendment offers broad protection of free speech, even if that speech is racist or of a violent nature. Prosecutions in the US are further complicated by the second amendment which safeguards the right to bear arms.

So what can be done to stop a shooter before they strike?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49439539
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2019 03:34 am
@Baldimo,
I do explain, you don't understand. You use oxymorons like 'false facts' which are meaningless, and you still fail to understand.

My anecdote was pertinent in that American students were behind us already and taking $48million out of the education budget isn't going to help matters.

Why do only American schools have to be redesigned like this? Why is school/mass shooting a particularly American problem? The NRA. Whether or not they were named in the article is irrelevant. It's the NRA that stops meaningful life saving legislation to occur.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2019 04:12 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
It's the NRA that stops meaningful life saving legislation to occur.

That is incorrect. The NRA stops legislation that isn't designed to save lives, but is designed only to violate our civil liberties for the pleasure of progressives who enjoy that sort of thing.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2019 04:17 am
@oralloy,
One would think oralloy would get tired of reciting that nonsense opinion over and over and over.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2019 04:25 am
@MontereyJack,
I don't think oralloy is capable of acting any differently, limited programming.
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