Guns: how much longer will it take ....

@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

I didnt think youd need me to translate what Justice Scalia said.

Correct. There is no need to translate. It's the same thing that I've been saying all along.

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Police say there are "multiple fatalities" after a shooting at a bar in Thousand Oaks, California.

Reports say the shooting began at about 23:20 local time on Wednesday at the Borderline Bar and Grill about 40 miles (65km) north-west of Los Angeles.

Officials have confirmed the suspect is now dead, and have said there were at least 11 victims in the attack.

At least 200 people were reportedly inside the bar attending a college country music night at the time.

"When deputies arrived they heard shots being fired, it was an active shooter situation," Ventura County Sheriff's office spokesman Eric Buschow said.

"They entered the location and I can tell you there are multiple fatalities, multiple injuries, among the victims is one of our sheriff's deputies that responded in that initial call, as well as the shooter."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46135459<br />
So much for the good guy with the gun bollocks, he got shot the same as everyone else.

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@izzythepush,

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the suspect is now dead

there's that at least...

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

So much for the good guy with the gun bollocks, he got shot the same as everyone else.

Yep, that whole idea blown right to hell because of this single incident. No sense in anyone owning a gun now!

Oh, wait. We might to hold off on that ofr a sec...
Armed Bystander Guns Down Criminal Suspect Attacking Cop

Oklahoma shooting suspect killed by bystanders had gun license, police say

Concealed Carrier Shoots and Kills Armed Robber Who Held Gun to the Back of His Head

Armed Law-Abiding Civilian Guns Down, Kills Active Shooter at Restaurant

Local Bystander With A Gun Shoots Gunman Who Opened Fire At Titusville Public Park

Rolling Eyes

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It's time to quit being sensitive to the pleas of gun nuts and enact some meaningful gun legislation. If it means over their cold dead bodies, whose fault would that be?

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@oralloy,

Another 12 people dead in California from a guy who was, according to oralloy's criteria. simply a civil rights activist exercising his second amendment rights to have a gun for self-defense. According to a news report, 17 NRA supporters lost their seats in the midterms. About damned time. Thank you Parkland survivors.

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@edgarblythe,

edgarblythe wrote:

It's time to quit being sensitive to the pleas of gun nuts and enact some meaningful gun legislation. If it means over their cold dead bodies, whose fault would that be?

We should probably get some meaningful free speech and free press legislation too. CNN has got to go. Those fuckers have crossed the line too many times and need to be shut down!

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@edgarblythe,

He used a .45 handgun, what "meaningful gun legislation" do you propose? The extended mags he used were already illegal under CA law.

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@McGentrix,

If you meant that to be satirical, if did not work. If you were serious, you have crossed the constitutional line.

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@Baldimo,

Outlawing semi=auto guns would be a start.

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@MontereyJack,

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Outlawing semi=auto guns would be a start.

So all semi-auto guns, rifles and handguns? You do realize that the vast majority of guns sold in the US are semi-auto, pull the trigger one time and one bullet is shot. Are confiscations part of those laws? How do you balance the 2nd Amendment against such a ban?

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

According to a news report, 17 NRA supporters lost their seats in the midterms. About damned time. Thank you Parkland survivors.

they definitely helped get younger voters out and that is a great thing for the US

politically engaged and active young people are a wonderful thing

keep on voting!

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@ehBeth,

or as dys said

vote early, vote often

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In this one case, I have to agree with Baldimo (gosh, did I say that?) Apparently the magazines the gunman used were already illegal. Need to double check that. Perhaps stricter or more aggressive monitoring of illegal purchases online or at gun shows or whereever they obtain extra things to make guns more deadly could be one important issue to look at. Also, from what I read, he sought mental help in the past. So this gunman must have slipped through the cracks. Although, hasn't the NRA and republicans been fighting menatally unbalanced people having their guns taken away? Seems I read that before. Looks like I need to do a lot of googling to continue this post. Might get back later. In any event, I blame our gun happy society in the US.

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@edgarblythe,

edgarblythe wrote:

It's time to quit being sensitive to the pleas of gun nuts and enact some meaningful gun legislation.

Freedom haters have never been sensitive to arguments about civil rights. They just don't have the power to abolish our civil rights.

edgarblythe wrote:

If it means over their cold dead bodies, whose fault would that be?

It won't mean over our cold dead bodies. Freedom haters don't have the votes to repeal civil rights, and they never will.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

Outlawing semi=auto guns would be a start.

Unconstitutional. There isn't any justification for such a ban.

But thanks for helping to discredit the left's untrue claim that they are not out to ban guns.

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@revelette1,

revelette1 wrote:

Although, hasn't the NRA and republicans been fighting menatally unbalanced people having their guns taken away? Seems I read that before. Looks like I need to do a lot of googling to continue this post. Might get back later.

Barack Obama tried decreeing that a bunch of ordinary people are mentally ill so he could take their guns. Trump put a stop to it.

It had nothing to do with people who are actually mentally ill however.

And actually, disabled war vets are still being denied their rights under that outrageous policy. Trump only restored the rights of civilians.

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@MontereyJack,

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Outlawing semi=auto guns would be a start.

You do realize that you are advocating outlawing every gun in the country, don't you?
Is that what you truly want?

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does it even matter anymore?

nothing new

nothing to see here

another shooting of a bunch of people by a white guy in the US

<shrug>

let's just call it a popular population control measure

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@Baldimo,

Baldimo wrote:

He used a .45 handgun, what "meaningful gun legislation" do you propose? The extended mags he used were already illegal under CA law.

You ain't seen nothing compared to what is required to halt the carnage.

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