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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 11:56 am
@ehBeth,
It's not just gun control that's the problem, the guy was an ex marine with suspected PTSD. Inadequate aftercare that reminds me of Vietnam vets who were taken out of the jungle and dumped in downtown America.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 11:59 am
@revelette1,
One article i read said he had ptsd. From what it dident say. Another olllie practishioner of the second amendment.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 12:11 pm
@edgarblythe,
A repeal of the 2nd Amendment?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 01:08 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

If you meant that to be satirical, if did not work. If you were serious, you have crossed the constitutional line.


Is one amendment more sacrosanct than another?
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 01:14 pm
@McGentrix,
You guys seem to think so.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 01:16 pm
@MontereyJack,
Nonsense.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 01:20 pm
@McGentrix,
Oh yeah? Ask oralloy. Hee hhas repeatedly asserted that his interpretation of the 2 nd which did not even exist before 2006 outoweighs all the others.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 01:28 pm
@izzythepush,
People in the US have rarely had interest in taking good care of their veterans. Not saying it's brilliant here, but it's not embarrassing.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 01:36 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
People in the US have rarely had interest in taking good care of their veterans

Not anymore. Trump has turned that around. You are not as informed as you think.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 01:43 pm
@ehBeth,
You are correct, the last admin had a massive scandal over how vets were treated by the VA.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 01:58 pm
@MontereyJack,
It has always been generally accepted, including back in the 80's when fully auto guns were heavily restricted, that the 2nd Amendment applied to the people and not militias, it was the modern day leftists who think the 2nd Amendment doesn't apply to all US citizens, hence their extreme push for the last 20 plus years to get guns banned. It started out with the un-renewed assault weapons ban and has been being pushed since then.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 03:07 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

Oh yeah? Ask oralloy. Hee hhas repeatedly asserted that his interpretation of the 2 nd which did not even exist before 2006 outoweighs all the others.


So, basically, you agree that all of the amendments to the Constitution are equally important? That just because an individual or group of individuals may not think so, the country as a whole needs to hold all the amendments equally "holy"?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 03:30 pm
The Constitution was meant to grow with the nation. The 2nd amendment has gotten out of touch with the situation on the ground. The founders never intended citizens to practice mass murder on a daily basis. Gun control is an urgent necessity.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 03:31 pm
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
The Constitution was meant to grow with the nation.

Where does the Constitution say that?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 03:34 pm
@coldjoint,
It is stipulated that it can be amended. Meaning it was intended to grow with the times. Haven't you ever noticed that the amendments did not come in the original?
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 03:37 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
You ain't seen nothing compared to what is required to halt the carnage.
The only thing that could halt the carnage is to get the media to stop glorifying mass murderers.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 03:41 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
The 2nd amendment has gotten out of touch with the situation on the ground. The founders never intended citizens to practice mass murder on a daily basis. Gun control is an urgent necessity.
Gun control is not about preventing murders or saving lives. Gun control advocates simply want to violate people's rights for fun.

The Second Amendment is well in touch with today's America. It was meant to prevent our rights from being violated, and it is doing the job that it was designed to do.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 03:42 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Oh yeah? Ask oralloy. Hee hhas repeatedly asserted that his interpretation of the 2nd which did not even exist before 2006 outoweighs all the others.
Your calendar is off by a little bit. It has existed for 2600 years.

But yes, the correct interpretation of our rights outweighs interpretations that maliciously pretend that our rights do not exist.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 03:46 pm
@edgarblythe,
How is a document that was and is intended to limit the power of the Federal govt and allow for maximum individual freedom, meant to grow with the nation? It seems our Constitution is no longer used to limit govt but to grant it permission to limit our liberty.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 03:51 pm
@edgarblythe,
You have to be able to read and understand what you read. Beyond some on this site.
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