Guns: how much longer will it take ....

Six people have been killed in linked shootings in the city of Bakersfield in California, police say.

A man and his wife drove to a trucking business in the city, where the man shot dead two men and his wife.

The man then drove to another residence where he shot dead two more people.

After hijacking a vehicle with a woman and child in it, the man was then confronted by a deputy and shot himself dead. Police are still investigating the motives behind the killings.

Donny Youngblood of the Kern County Sheriff's Department said deputies were called to the trucking business after reports of shots being fired at 17:20 local time (00:20 GMT) .

Authorities were working to determine "why this started and why so many players were involved and the connection because obviously these are not random shootings," he said.

The entire incident took place over 10 to 15 minutes, he said.

"This is the new normal, if you look across the country," he said, describing the incident as a mass shooting.

"Six people lost their lives in a very short period of time."

The deputies learned that the husband had confronted a man and then shot both him and his own wife. Another man then appeared at the scene and the husband shot at him, before pursuing him and shooting him dead.

The husband then drove to a residence on Breckenridge Road and shot dead two people.

After being carjacked in their car, the woman and child inside managed to escape.

The man pulled over after a deputy confronted him with a firearm and then shot himself dead.

The names of the victims have not been released, but they were all from the Bakersfield area, some 90 miles (145km) north of Los Angeles, police said.

People have lost all fear and feel emboldened to bring up such a horrible image which refers to a shameful time in the past.

The CIA and the Gulf War
by John Stockwell

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We'll get into that in more detail in just a minute, but first you have to proceed to understand our system and how the conditioning works in a little bit more detail.

The conditioning to war [and violence] in this country begins at the age of two, when we put our children in front of the one-eyed baby-sitter, and we turn it on and we go wash dishes or sweep the floor or clean the car — and we teach them. Actually, little kids (I don't know if you've done this recently), they're bored with TV at first. You have to get them hooked on it. We teach them, actually, to watch television. And very quickly they learn. And then they get to where they're watching 10 to 15 to 20 shows a day, all of them the same show, the same story with different characters. I call it the "American Syndrome."

http://www.serendipity.li/cia/stock2.html

Except we haven't done this in relation to war,

“We’re at War!” — And We Have Been Since 1776: 214 Years of American War-Making
by Danios on December 20, 2011 in Feature, Loon Politics


“I should welcome almost any war, for I think this country needs one.” -President Theodore Roosevelt, at the turn of the century [1]



http://www.loonwatch.com/files/2011/12/we-re-at-war-and-we-have-been-since-1776/

Even domestic related mass shootings are still mass shootings.

We had one here in Western Australia not too long ago. I didn't consider it anything other than a mass shooting.

You'd rather call it mass murder I guess. Well, that's fine, but there are different ways mass murders are carried out. You call a bombing a bombing, rather than mass murder, because it describes the nature of the weapon used, and it's expected to result in multiple fatalities. Then there are suicide bombers. And with the rise of vehicular attacks, the use of vehicle as a weapon is still headlined.

Guns differ in a way, in that the offender can target just one person, or multiple (mass) people.

All up, I don't see any issue with the type of mass murder being related to the weapon used.

It appears you may have issue with the setting, and the use of 'mass shooting'. You could call it a multiple domestic homicide...though the above argument arises again... and I have little doubt it wouldn't have ended with the total number of deaths, had the weapon been a knife - he had to travel, so the specific placement and setting of each person he killed would be unknown to him prior to arrival, which means, with the closeness he has to get to each victim, that escape would likely have been possible for some of the ultimate victims.

It is alleged Anthony Robert Harvey, 24, killed his wife and children on September 3, then killed his mother-in-law the next morning when she came to visit.
It is the third domestic mass killing in Western Australia in four months.
A grandfather shot his wife, daughter and her four children before taking his own life at a farm in Osmington, near Margaret River, in May.
Just over two months later, a 19-year-old man allegedly murdered his mother, sister and brother in Ellenbrook in Perth's northeast.

I don't think there's political mileage in the use of the term Mass Shooting. I think it's very accurate, and very apt.

The Osmington deaths are the worst mass shooting since then.

Western Australia state Premier Mark McGowan, who travelled to Margaret River on Sunday, said he did not think gun laws could be further tightened but he would await recommendations from a coronial inquiry into the shootings.

Mass shooting has a political meaning in usage but you know that.

Your bias is showing, because a knife, bomb, car or anything else can be used to kill numerous people or one person . Guns are no different other than they are a political item to the anti-gun people.

Except most crimes, and that is what this family murder was, aren't about the weapon used,

except for people such as yourself

who dislike guns

Are you actually interested in talking regulations?

I thought your position was that it breaches your 2nd amendment