Guns: how much longer will it take ....

@izzythepush,

Liberal DNC candidate who ran on a gun control platform saying:

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In an interview, Collins said, “The GOP is targeting all women, minorities, members of the LGBT community and disabled people as lesser sections of society and you can see it in the bills they have passed and are attempting to pass so far in 2017.”

She was arrested for the shooting death of her campaign Treasurer....

http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/13/former-gun-control-candidate-charged-shooting-campaign-treasurer/

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@Baldimo,

Do you have a point, Baldimo?

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

NRA Says it Is Facing a Financial Crisis

That's OK. The courts will make New York state taxpayers give tons of money to the NRA.

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@vikorr,

vikorr wrote:

The situations you described as stopped, almost never happen in Australia. Most gun violence is otherwise domestic, or between drug users / dealers / bikies.

As I recall, when Australia abolished freedom the result was a massive increase in armed and unarmed robbery rates for the next five years.

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@neptuneblue,

neptuneblue wrote:

She has NO business there, yet because of free speech, she's allowed to meander about with an assault rifle. This has nothing to do with a 2nd Amendment right, and every thing to do with people thinking they can shove their opinions down people's throats.

What's wrong with getting in the faces of people who want to violate our rights?

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@oralloy,

As you, a noted fabricator of immense proportions recalls.

Big phuckin' deal!

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@camlok,

camlok wrote:

As you, a noted fabricator of immense proportions recalls.

You cannot show a single falsehood on my part.

camlok wrote:

Big phuckin' deal!

A huge crime spree is relevant in a discussion about crime rates.

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@oralloy,

Your recall is faulty. Theire was a misest increase, not massive, for five years. til they got guns off the street and in the ten plus years since then crime has dropped ste as dilyvwell below the levell pre ban.

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@MontereyJack,

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dropped ste as dilyvwell below the levell pre ban.

Is oralloy compensated in any way for translating what you post? He should be.

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@coldjoint,

dropped steadily well below. My typing on my phone sucks but my content makes far more sense than yours.

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@MontereyJack,

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... but my content makes far more sense than yours.

That it does, MJ, that it does!!!

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@oralloy,

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As I recall, when Australia abolished freedom the result was a massive increase in armed and unarmed robbery rates for the next five years.

Form Homicides, refer to the charts at the bottom of the article, they're interactive, without a link.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-28/fact-check-gun-homicides-and-suicides-john-howard-port-arthur/7254880

This is the article link. And this is the chart from that article that you were probably thinking of for robberies

https://aic.gov.au/sites/default/files/publications/tandi/images/359-figure_04.png

This article has a chart comparing US, UK, Australia, and Sweden's homicide rate history

There's plenty more articles out there. People can look and make up their own mind what sort of environment they'd rather live in - which is up to the individual.

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@vikorr,

This chart really doesn't show that much improvement since the early 90's, it shows a crime spike for a few years, but the drop after the increase looks to be about the same as prior to the spike... So it doesn't look like crime has gotten better since guns were banned.

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@Baldimo,

As I said, people will get out of it what they want. For example, guns were never common on Australian streets anyway - so gun control was unlikely to have much bearing on robbery rates.

It is by the way, a chart for only one type of crime. The other charts (you have to go through the links), also show homicide rates. And there are other interesting charts that can be found.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

What's wrong with getting in the faces of people who want to violate our rights?

I do worry about her mental instability to not open fire on an unarmed populace since common sense isn't on her agenda.

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@neptuneblue,

There doesn't seem to be any cause for such worry.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

Your recall is faulty. There was a modest increase, not massive, for five years.

In my view, doubling the normal rates is far more than a modest increase.

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@vikorr,

vikorr wrote:

Form Homicides, refer to the charts at the bottom of the article, they're interactive, without a link.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-28/fact-check-gun-homicides-and-suicides-john-howard-port-arthur/7254880

Switching from gun deaths to knife deaths is pointless. The victims are just as dead either way.

vikorr wrote:

This is the article link. And this is the chart from that article that you were probably thinking of for robberies

This article has a chart comparing US, UK, Australia, and Sweden's homicide rate history

There's plenty more articles out there. People can look and make up their own mind what sort of environment they'd rather live in - which is up to the individual.

I'd rather live in a free country.

Even if abolishing freedom would save lives, I'd still want to be free.

The fact that abolishing your freedom didn't save any lives just makes your loss of freedom even more tragic.

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@oralloy,

Copying others facts and sources doesn't make your evidence free posts any better, oralloy.

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@camlok,

camlok wrote:

Copying others facts and sources

Quoting each point that I am replying to is standard when addressing posts with multiple points.

camlok wrote:

your evidence free posts

Don't lie. I've always provided cites upon request.

camlok wrote:

any better, oralloy.

Can't improve on perfection.

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