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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 01:54 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Why should our tax dollars be spent producing anti-freedom propaganda?
Gun deaths IS THE ONLY CATEGORY of violent and accidental death called out in the Dickey Amndment. You consider that "pro freedom". How about its more likely stifling the truth???

Im Chikeeta Banana an Im here to say
Im running all you govmint the Chikeeta way.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 01:57 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
If murder was made leagal and required, you'd follow the law blindly??

It is by some and we are importing them. Your comment is extreme, mine is based on fact. I think we need guns now more than ever.
farmerman
 
  2  
Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 02:20 pm
@coldjoint,
stop the equivocation. The question was whether YOU would follow a law that required murder?? (Actually it was to oral , unlike you, at least he doesnt try to tap dance too much)
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 02:21 pm
@coldjoint,
actually do you mean that your facts INCLUDE the CDC data about gun deaths in the USA??
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 02:30 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
CDC data about gun deaths in the USA??

Is there a number for gun deaths by illegals? If not, we know why.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 02:37 pm
@oralloy,
Nevertheless, it's far easier to kill someone with a gun than with a knife.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 02:38 pm
@coldjoint,
The number compiles the total number of gun deaths. It doesnt (as far as I know) sub categorize how many were accidental, or suicides, or killings by cops, or Muslim terrorists. ALTHOUGH, Im sure were we to desire that kind of breakdown it would be possible to acquire from the raw data.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 02:44 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Is there a number for gun deaths by illegals? If not, we know why.
I give you some partial
credit for trying to turn the above point around to make it seem to support something you are about.
The point you wre trying to deny was that gathering such gun death data was something that the GOP had REMOVED from CDC's annual roster of non-sickness related deaths. You were trying to state that it was OK for th govt to redact all the gun death data under the Dickey Amendment, and that the redaction was in order to "preserve your freedom"

Do you often read what you write before you send it??
oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 03:44 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
boy, your mind is permanently bent and stuck up the NRA's ass aint it??
Because I love freedom?

farmerman wrote:
If murder was made leagal and required, you'd follow the law blindly??
I'm having trouble visualizing that scenario.

But note that I am not opposing anti-freedom propaganda because a law says to oppose it.

I oppose anti-freedom propaganda because I love freedom.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 03:45 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
How about its more likely stifling the truth???
There is no truth to be had in anti-freedom propaganda. All it does is mislead people.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 03:47 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
Nevertheless, it's far easier to kill someone with a gun than with a knife.
A knife makes it easy enough that anyone who is intent on murder is able to do so. That a gun makes it easier yet does not change much.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 05:14 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
Do you often read what you write before you send it??

Yes I do. And my post was about how many are killed by illegals with guns? Those are numbers that can be drastically reduced. Your bullshit about whether to list something in a department that cannot stop bullets is a distraction.

You want to limit gun violence take care of one of the problems at the source.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 06:59 pm
@coldjoint,
you were ostensibly responding to me? That had nothing to do with my position and your response was the distraction because you had nothing in yer quiver. You and Oralloy , when cornered, rspond to something that you wish youd have said erlier, or, just like the rabbit with the pancake, it has nothing to do with the point in hand.

Back to the home and dont leave yer walker where folks can trip over it
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 07:35 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
Back to the home and dont leave yer walker where folks can trip over it

What a nasty thing for an enlightened and emasculated individual to say. I am not that old, but teasing people disabled by age is not needed.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Sun 29 Jul, 2018 03:45 am
@farmerman,
What are you talking about? Since when have either of us been cornered?
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Olivier5
 
  1  
Reply Sun 29 Jul, 2018 04:14 am
@oralloy,
Are you saying that guns are useless?
oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Sun 29 Jul, 2018 04:45 am
@Olivier5,
Of course not. They are quite useful.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jul, 2018 06:31 am
@oralloy,
What is their advantage as compared to knives then?
oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Sun 29 Jul, 2018 09:51 am
@Olivier5,
Greater lethality. Greater range. Easier to use.
Olivier5
 
  1  
Reply Sun 29 Jul, 2018 10:19 am
@oralloy,
Therefore it's easier to kill someone with a gun than with a know...
 

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