Guns: how much longer will it take ....

Okay, like I said before, just show me a list of the mass shootings in recent years where the shooter used a semiauto rifle that was not an assault style rifle. If you cannot provide such a list, then you must admit that semiauto rifles in the assault style DO have a special attraction to deranged people to use as a method to go out of this world in a Blaze Of Glory, taking as many innocent people with them.

I always have found it odd that even as a gun owner myself it’s impossible to have a discussion with gun-nuts because if you can’t tell them the exact muzzle velocity or entire history of whatever gun related thing you’re trying to talk about, then they try to use that to dismiss your entire argument.

Actually, from what I can see after several conversations, anti-gun control people don't really know much about guns-or perhaps, there really isn't that much to know, so they pretend there's a lot and that they know it and you don't.

It's all dodging around because after all these mass shootings, especially of schools, they sense a real danger of a revolt by the voters against the legislators who align themselves with the NRA.

So now if a shooter goes through a school killing kids and teachers, you want the media NOT to cover it? Or give less coverage?

Used to be kids in school learning the ABCs was the personification of nice, safe, normal life.

Now you and the rest of the gun nuts want to amend that to "I used to worry about my kid getting shot in school, but I've realized that statistically it's not that much so I've learned to just live with it".

There are, or at least were, semiauto rifles which are not assault style.

Okay, like I said before, just show me a list of the mass shootings in recent years where the shooter used a semiauto rifle that was not an assault style rifle.

If you cannot provide such a list, then you must admit that semiauto rifles in the assault style DO have a special attraction to deranged people to use as a method to go out of this world in a Blaze Of Glory, taking as many innocent people with them.

I always have found it odd that even as a gun owner myself it’s impossible to have a discussion with gun-nuts because if you can’t tell them the exact muzzle velocity or entire history of whatever gun related thing you’re trying to talk about, then they try to use that to dismiss your entire argument.

Think if that was applied to other discussions we have online.


“Oh, you think you can have an opinion on healthcare? You better be able to explain the blood-brain barrier and the function of potassium in the muscular system and don’t forget the process of cellular respiration. Then explain the history of sterilization in the surgical process back to the 1600’s. Be exact down to the 3rd decimal place or your opinion on whether Viagra should be covered my Medicare won’t be taken seriously.”

The term assault rifle is a made up term for guns that look scary.

I haven't found any of the gun zealots willing to face the FACT that over 10000 people a year die in the US from gun violence every year and actually do anything about it. Or in most cases even admit that that is a problem.

Baldimo wrote:

The term assault rifle is a made up term for guns that look scary.

Actually, the term is the - more or less - literal translation of the German word Sturmngewehr.
The term Sturmgewehr ("assault rifle") wasn't suitable for clearly defining a small arms category from a technical point of view - it was a propagandistic naming of one of the "miracle weapons" (Wunderwaffen) in the German Reich back in the time of National Socialism and was used for the assault rifle 44 (StGw 44).

Okay, like I said before, just show me a list of the mass shootings in recent years where the shooter used a semiauto rifle that was not an assault style rifle.....
.......If you cannot provide such a list, then you must admit that semiauto rifles in the assault style DO have a special attraction to deranged people to use as a method to go out of this world in a Blaze Of Glory, taking as many innocent people with them.

The term assault rifle is a made up term for guns that look scary. I've already post plenty of mass shootings were no rifle of any kind was used. Shotguns and pistols...

....In the assault style... you keep using that scary term to drive the discussion. I've already posted enough stories of people who used guns other than AR-15 type rifles.

Do yo really think pointing out a mispelli g makes your point?

I haven't found any of the gun zealots willing to face the FACT that over 10000 people a year die in the US from gun violence every year and actually do anything about it.

Or in most cases even admit that that is a problem.

There is no list of semiauto non-assault style rifles used in mass murder because all the mass murders using semiauto rifles are assault-style rifles. So your answer that there is no difference between assault style semiautomatic rifles and regular semiautomatic rifles goes out the window.

Clearly the deranged people who commit mass murder using semiautomatic rifles know the difference, and they choose the assault style semiauto rifle every time.

Which is why semiautomatic assault style weapons need to be outlawed now.

Because sane people want to put as much distance between deranged people and the weapons they are attracted to using in mass murders as possible. And people like you don't.

Hah! I knew you couldn't do it!!

There is no list of semiauto non-assault style rifles used in mass murder because all the mass murders using semiauto rifles are assault-style rifles. So your answer that there is no difference between assault style semiautomatic rifles and regular semiautomatic rifles goes out the window.

Because you know the term "assault weapon" is a bullshit term used to make semi-auto rifles sound scary.

The media creates the list and gives them the names. There is no list because the media deals in dishonesty when it comes to the gun debate and it's labels.