Guns: how much longer will it take ....

So then, following the same logic, we can assume that you also favor dropping the present ban on automatic rifles and machine guns as well, since you feel strongly the blame for bad events should fall on the person doing the shooting, not on inanimate objects?

Your logic would be wrong. First off, there is no difference between an automatic and a machine gun, there is a limited ban on them already.

Besides, we have a limited ban on automatic rifles which I'm fine with

The logic banning them is the same logic as the proposed ban on semiautomatic rifles.

Separated at Birth: David Hogg and Adam Lanza

Good for NY, a sensible state.

I wonder how many gun nuts on this site could pass a physiological examination?

Not the question I asked.

What I asked was, since you believe the responsibility of bad incidents lies with the person shooting, and not the inanimate object he is shooting with, do you favor overturning the ban on automatic weapons and machine guns?

But why are you fine with it?

You have made it clear that you and the rest of the anti-gun control people are simply fed up to the ears with the whole concept of banning certain guns,

which you feel is illogical since it puts the blame for bad gun incidents on an inanimate object-the gun-instead of where it belongs-on the human shooting the gun.

So if it is illogical to ban a semiautomatic rifle because it is putting the blame on bad gun incidents on the rifle instead of the rifleman, why is it okay to keep a ban on machine guns and automatic rifles? The logic banning them is the same logic as the proposed ban on semiautomatic rifles.

I wonder how many gun nuts on this site could pass a physiological examination?

There is no ban on machine/automatic rifles, except that civilians can't own one newer than 1986. This is the only "ban" I would lift on those types of weapons.

Because a restriction isn't a ban

We see no sense of banning the AR-15 because it looks scary, that's the only reason why you want it banned.

Other rifles with the same type of action, semi-auto, seem to pass muster with the gun grabbers. Banning the AR-15 is all about looks and nothing to do with how it actually operates.

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We see no sense of banning the AR-15 because it looks scary, that's the only reason why you want it banned.

Not true at all. Please cease posting falsehoods.

There are a couple of reasons, one of which is that the assault weapon has been glorified so that even in semiautomatic mode is clearly attractive to deranged people who want to end it all and go out in a Blaze Of Glory taking as many innocents with them as possible. We know this because of all the shootings occurring in the past few years by deranged people using the semiautomatic version of the assault rifle.

There's another reason, we only spent over a dozen pages on it a little while back, but this reason alone is enough.

I'm sorry, but apparently your knowledge of guns is so lacking that you don't understand that they are through-engineered. Form follows function. Perhaps one or two odd models might pass with cheap decoration, but engineers are hard at work at most manufacturers making sure the gun works well as a unit. The fact that you say it's only how it looks shows you don't know anything about the design or manufacturing process.

Besides which, there is no law or constitutional principle which establishes that the operation of a gun-even if you were correct about the differences being "cosmetic", which you aren't-must be the legal reason for any ban or "restriction" as you have taken to calling it.

The accelerating rate of mass shootings in schools and other public places is reason enough-much more than reason enough-to resume banning assault-style weapons even if set at the factory for semi-auto mode.

You don't call that a ban? Thirty two years ago a law was passed that no more machine guns or fully automatic rifles can be sold to the public? Hate to tell you, that's a ban.

If the "restriction" is that you can't legally buy one anymore, it's a ban. Rolling Eyes

Not true at all. Please cease posting falsehoods.

There are a couple of reasons, one of which is that the assault weapon has been glorified

so that even in semiautomatic mode is clearly attractive to deranged people who want to end it all and go out in a Blaze Of Glory taking as many innocents with them as possible.

We know this because of all the shootings occurring in the past few years by deranged people using the semiautomatic version of the assault rifle.

There's another reason, we only spent over a dozen pages on it a little while back, but this reason alone is enough.

I'm sorry, but apparently your knowledge of guns is so lacking that you don't understand that they are through-engineered.

Form follows function. Perhaps one or two odd models might pass with cheap decoration,

but engineers are hard at work at most manufacturers making sure the gun works well as a unit.

The fact that you say it's only how it looks shows you don't know anything about the design or manufacturing process.

Besides which, there is no law or constitutional principle which establishes that the operation of a gun-even if you were correct about the differences being "cosmetic", which you aren't-must be the legal reason for any ban or "restriction" as you have taken to calling it.

The accelerating rate of mass shootings in schools and other public places is reason enough-much more than reason enough-

to resume banning assault-style weapons even if set at the factory for semi-auto mode.

All your posturing here as an authority is an attempt to distract focus from that fact.

There are a couple of reasons, one of which is that the assault weapon has been glorified

Who has glorified them? I'll tell you, the left-wing media. Wall to wall coverage every time there is a mass shooting, spending as much time as possible talking about the death machine that was used

so that even in semiautomatic mode [assault-style weapons] is clearly attractive to deranged people who want to end it all and go out in a Blaze Of Glory taking as many innocents with them as possible.

What other mode is there for a semi-auto rifle?See the language you use? Who is the biggest promoter of mass shootings in the US? The leftist media

Here is how to go and legally buy an automatic/machine gun, which are not banned. You can't legally purchase something that is banned.