Guns: how much longer will it take ....

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Adding a bump stock does not change a gun into an automatic weapon.

The bump stock may allow the gun to fire at a rate similar to an automatic weapon, but it does not become an automatic weapon.

Actually, we can ban AR-15s and other semiauto versions of assault weapons tomorrow if had the political will. The 2nd Amendment wouldn't block it, because while the 2nd Amendment days that people should be allowed to have weapons, it says nothing about people being allowed to ANY weapon.

That is incorrect. You are only allowed to restrict a right if there is a good reason to justify that restriction.

There is no justification for banning AR-15s or other semi-auto weapons. Such bans are designed only to violate people's rights for fun.

Of course, those parts she referred to are the bumpstock.

She also correctly stated that information existed on the web how to attach those parts.

. . . semiauto versions of assault weapons . . .

There is no legal or constitutional requirement to prove that this law "has a good reason" more than any other law.

Perfect example of what Revellete said earlier, about how the pro-gun folks use a debate strategy of making slight distinctions with no real difference.

You are an NRA slave, who like Westworld robots are just cannon fodder endowed with an illusion of freedom.

Perfect example of what Revellete said earlier, about how the pro-gun folks use a debate strategy of making slight distinctions with no real difference.

The pro-gun people have been saying for years that semi-auto versions of assault rifles like the AR-15 and others are not really assault weapons, only the automatic versions are because the semiauto versions don't fire fast enough. The bump stock raises the fire rate to where the from-the-factory semiauto version of an assault weapon fires at the rate of an automatic weapon. The videos I posted prove it.

So now you are claiming that a bump stock/semiauto combo is not really an automatic weapon. Not really true,

but even if it was, it is a moot point.

If the semiauto assault weapon combined with a bumpstock fires as fast as automatic weapons with similar accuracy, then the semiauto/bumpstock combo is the functional equivalent of an automatic weapon.

There is no legal or constitutional requirement to prove that this law "has a good reason" more than any other law.

She followed up, again, in the same post, by saying, "He (Paddock) used a bumper stock to turn a legal semi-automatic rifle into an automatic assault weapon." She thought the video showed a man firing a rifle with a bump-stock attached to it.

It was an automatic AR-15; its rate of fire and lack of a bump-stock confirms it.

She also correctly stated that information existed on the web how to attach those parts.

Dude, I'm looking at a guy bump firing a semiauto rifle,

Glennn said: "How many instances of someone turning a regular semiautomatic rifle into an automatic assault rifle are you aware of?"

Revelette said: "The Las Vegas shooter was one of them."

And then, in the same post, she clarifies her point by posting this video:

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/10/robert-farago/how-to-turn-a-modern-sporting-rifle-into-an-assault-rifle/

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@Glennn,
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How many instances of someone turning a regular semiautomatic rifle into an automatic assault rifle are you aware of?

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Quote Revellette:

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The Las Vegas shooter was one of them.

This Is How The Las Vegas Shooter Turned His Assault Rifles Into Automatic Weapons

He used a bumper stock to turn a legal semi-automatic riffle into a automatic assault weapon. It was done legally. It should not be done legally.