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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 12:52 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
That is nonsense. Pistol grips are not an enabler of rapid fire
have you had any training in semi or full auto? I seem to note a pattern of basic ignorance about "Point aiming" or recoil damping and urban assault weapons.

Hmmmm, and I was only engineers


AS far as pistol grips , while I am well informed about the role they play, and you are dead wrong rookie, I still sy you must have me confused with someone else or you mistook what I said because youve been haranguing about them and probably you dont listen to people well.
I was consistent about the "package deal" of large cap clips, short barrels and recoil control which includes pistol grips. IVE NEVER singled out pistol grips as the only thing to control.


YOU WERE THE ONE WHO always tried to single out "pistol grips" as the sole proprty of these kiddie weapons. Youve done this with almost everyone youve tried making your dumass points with
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 12:57 am
@oralloy,
Quote:

No I don't. You just get frustrated when the facts are against you,
Naaah, you often come across quite dim . You try to act like youre a weapons expert and youve several times revealed your limitations in weapons training.

oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 06:38 am
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:
You must be feeling pretty special right now. Look at you!!! Getting all that attention.

You look pretty silly when you try to craft your own childish insults.

I advise not trying to be insulting at all. Aside from your inability to create your own insults, a2k is more about facts than it is about namecalling.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 06:40 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
I seem to note a pattern of basic ignorance about "Point aiming"

Your silly nonsense about people firing their guns without aiming them?

That is because that is just a bunch of silly nonsense on your part.


farmerman wrote:
or recoil damping

Nope. You note no such ignorance on my part. You just rely on mischaracterization because you have no facts or logic to offer.


farmerman wrote:
and urban assault weapons.

More silly nonsense on your part.


farmerman wrote:
AS far as pistol grips , while I am well informed about the role they play,

You mean, while you make up silly nonsense about the role they play.


farmerman wrote:
and you are dead wrong

No I'm not.


farmerman wrote:
I still sy you must have me confused with someone else or you mistook what I said because youve been haranguing about them and probably you dont listen to people well.
I was consistent about the "package deal" of large cap clips, short barrels and recoil control which includes pistol grips. IVE NEVER singled out pistol grips as the only thing to control.

Magazine capacity has nothing to do with whether a gun is an assault weapon. Neither for that matter does barrel length have anything to do with whether a gun is an assault weapon.

I've asked before what you even mean by short barrel, and why such a thing is bad if it does exist (other than the problem of it resulting in much less effective bullets).

You had no answer because it was all just a bunch of gibberish on your part.


farmerman wrote:
YOU WERE THE ONE WHO always tried to single out "pistol grips" as the sole proprty of these kiddie weapons. Youve done this with almost everyone youve tried making your dumass points with

You refer to facts and reality as dumass only because you have no arguments against them.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 06:43 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Naaah, you often come across quite dim.

I'm smarter than you are by several orders of magnitude.


farmerman wrote:
You try to act like youre a weapons expert

Meaning I post facts that you have no way to rebut.


farmerman wrote:
and youve several times revealed your limitations in weapons training.

No one else is trained to fire guns without aiming them either. Your nonsense about people being trained to fire weapons without aiming them is just delusional gibberish.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 06:57 am
@oralloy,
Y know , maybe you are, it matters not a jot, I dont need your approbia to make my day. I do know that youve certainly let down your experience in handling certain classes of weapons and I got a great laugh .
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 07:18 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Y know , maybe you are, it matters not a jot, I dont need your approbia to make my day.

You're the one who keeps bringing it up.


farmerman wrote:
I do know that youve certainly let down your experience in handling certain classes of weapons and I got a great laugh.

Your gibberish about people firing AR-15s without aiming them is just that: gibberish.

I also see there was no attempt to explain what you mean by a short barrel, and why it is supposedly bad (other than the reason that I provided myself).
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 08:32 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
You're the one who keeps bringing it up.
Are you suffering from something that makes you confuse people for other people. I recall you hqd an intelligence "big Dick" contest with another two correspondent, not me. I find that kind of crap distasteful, unproductive, and kinda onanistic.
You seem to challenge everyone here with your claims of such a giant brain and my feeling is that its one of the most childish of responses anyone can have to anothers comments.

One can be very bright and yet make dumass statements.Look at the president.He claims "genius hood", but rarely does he speak out of his mouth. So, rather than assuming some 12 year olds stature, try, instead, to make me see the light by more than one lame accusation played over and over and over

oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 08:42 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Are you suffering from something that makes you confuse people for other people. I recall you hqd an intelligence "big Dick" contest with another two correspondent, not me.

Try looking at your own posts on this very page.

"Naaah, you often come across quite dim."


farmerman wrote:
I find that kind of crap distasteful, unproductive, and kinda onanistic.

Don't bring it up then.


farmerman wrote:
You seem to challenge everyone here with your claims of such a giant brain

Only people who say things like:
"Naaah, you often come across quite dim."


farmerman wrote:
my feeling is that its one of the most childish of responses anyone can have to anothers comments.

It's a perfectly reasonable response to:
"Naaah, you often come across quite dim."


farmerman wrote:
try, instead, to make me see the light by more than one lame accusation played over and over and over

There is no justification for banning any assault weapon feature.

It is hard to know what you mean by "short barrels" since you refuse to explain what you consider short or why you think it is a problem, but barrel length has never been an assault weapon feature in any case.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 08:51 am
@oralloy,
so, by my calling your IDEA dim, means that you must go off like a 12 year old claiming how large is your brain??
You know nothing about proportionality eh? .


oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 08:57 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
You know nothing about proportionality eh?

I feel that my response is proportional.

If you feel that short barrels are somehow a problem, can you explain what you consider a short barrel to be, and why you feel that they are a problem?
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 09:33 am
@oralloy,
I believe all barrel length strictures died in 2004 when it became OK to kill people by deranged citizens with enhanced firepower and shorter than proscribed barrel lengths identified within the NFA.

oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 10:01 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
I believe all barrel length strictures died in 2004 when it became OK to kill people by deranged citizens with enhanced firepower and shorter than proscribed barrel lengths identified within the NFA.

Murdering people did not become OK in 2004. It remains against the law.

Rifles with barrels shorter than 16 inches remain covered by the NFA just as they've always been. As such, they aren't even dealt with in assault weapons laws.

The only thing that enhanced firepower in 2004 was the end of limits on magazine size. Magazine size has nothing to do with barrel length or with assault weapons.

However, tying magazine limits to assault weapons is a good way to get magazine limits struck down as collateral damage when the courts strike down assault weapons laws.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 10:37 pm
Does anybody know, are these people crying because normal Americans are still allowed to own firearms or are they still crying over the Hildabeast losing the election?? I mean, I hate seeing people cry for no real reason...

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Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 05:28 am
@farmerman,
I doubt Oral ever fired a gun outside of a video game.

I was a decent marksman with Afghans' Lee-Enfields when I was younger. Those would blow your eardrums away though... I could also dismantle and reassemble a AK47 under two minutes back in those days. Great gun, simple, light and sturdy. Afghans call it the mashin, from 'machine gun'.
Baldimo
 
  -1  
Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 08:12 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
Controls of firearms that can deliver many bullets at high speed in an urban assault weapon are whats the "target"

If that is the case, why doesn't the Ruger Ranch Rifle make the list of banned guns but the AR-15 does? It seems every single one of you anti-gun people refuse to answer such an easy question.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 08:39 am
@Baldimo,
Gotta start somewhere. Fine, since you insist, let's ban the Ruger Ranch too. Happy now?
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 08:45 am
@gungasnake,
No, you loon, they are disgusted with the inaction of the Florida legislature which ended up doing nothing about the MURDER of their schoolmates but found it in their hearts at the same session of inactivity to condemn porn instead. Totally fucked legislative priorities. And Hillary WON the election, remember. She was only appoointed by the anti-democratic EC. The country REJECTED your priorities, as you will find out this November.
farmerman
 
  2  
Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 08:54 am
@MontereyJack,
he doesnt believe that gun specs will define the rules, not brands.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 09:05 am
@MontereyJack,
I never insisted on anything, it's you who insists. I've asked what the difference is between the guns the legislators what to ban and the ones they don't. Why can't you answer such a simple question?
 

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